No. Within the confine of the specs of L4.
Exactly. The phantom braking is a decision point that the FSD computer determines when it is unsure of what it sees or lack thereof and is a safety decision to force a change in the incoming signals. Ever wonder why Mercedes has L3 ONLY in high density traffic areas?
Because it works within the confine of L3.
Tesla did the homework for the demo with premapping in a predetermined route. That could be called L4 in a geofenced, non-deviated route but still, the collision still happened.
Waymo does take highways within the predefined limits of their autonomous-taxi service. Tesla AP experiences phantom braking even on such short, few exits within a city (at least it did last I tried it and turned it off). We have 2 Teslas, one with AP1 and one with AP2.5. We use AP1 on highways, AP2.5 is permanently disabled in settings, except maybe once a year I turn it on hoping it got better, but then turn it off few miles later). I considered pushing for the free upgrade to AP3 (not sure if the car qualifies, as it only has Enhanced AP, the old one before most of its features moved to FSD in 2019), but not worth my time as it doesn't seem they've solved the problem yet, so no point. Maybe the next owner will pay to upgrade to AP4 which might reach parity with AP1, since it will have radar back.
Just sold our Model 3 with EAP and waiting on delivery of new Model Y with standard AP. My favorite part of EAP was auto lane change and I will miss that the most. Rarely used autopark or summon, although if smart summon reached a level of extreme reliability I could see value in the “it’s raining cats and dogs so pick me up at the front of the store” scenario.
Interesting. The car I just sold (2018 Model 3 with HW 2.5 and EAP) logged 159k miles with MANY of them on the highway. I always used autopilot on the highway and absolutely loved it. Phantom braking was an issue early on but seemed to get much better after the first year or so as software updates rolled out. Over the last few years phantom braking events were so rare I hardly noticed them. And when they did occur they weren’t as severe as they were during the initial year of ownership.
To be honest, i would really like for them to make the addon features transferable.
I'm doubtful that it's a HW - solved problem.
Short of adding cameras to the headlights, I agree with you. The existing software is the problem.
Imagine you are driving and you can only see 200 ft ahead of you. As you are driving, you enter a stretch of road where you see nothing on the road but the road itself. In other words, you see no difference in what you saw 15 seconds ago and what you see now. this continues on. At what point will you panic and hit the brakes or pull over?
or, do you take the RED pill ? and escape the simulation
