Paramus, NJ? Why? Why can't you just pick up from one of many Massachusetts delivery locations? There are three: Peabody, Dedham and Norwell.
My assigned location is Dedham, MA.
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Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023
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My assigned location is Dedham, MA.
. Before the price drop, I had placed a deposit to buy a Mach-E rear-wheel-drive standard range (247 miles). I considered the MYLR out of reach, a different class of vehicle. Now I'm getting a Tesla with AWD and longer range for the same price as my purchase agreement with Ford.
I remember story of Musk when he was young. He made some good money buy selling the books doe not worth anything.
He is playing same game here. He advertised to get orders to give delivery by Mar 31 2023 and now Tesla is pushing out dates so people cancel the order since they will not get the 7500 credit unless IRS change move their date from March 31 and Tesla makes 250 without doing anything. Tesla jacked up price by 2000$ so some people may still stay in order.
I am thinking to cancel the order and go with something else.
He is playing same game here. He advertised to get orders to give delivery by Mar 31 2023 and now Tesla is pushing out dates so people cancel the order since they will not get the 7500 credit unless IRS change move their date from March 31 and Tesla makes 250 without doing anything. Tesla jacked up price by 2000$ so some people may still stay in order.
I am thinking to cancel the order and go with something else.
best deal for you..
You might be right about that but boy the number of horror stories we read here about cars delivered from Fremont made me question that for a minute. Anyway, it is what it is. Unless the car has major issues (cracks, major scratches, torn seats, etc.) I probably wont make a big fuss. Either way I will report my delivery experience here. I might have to push it out a week as I am travelling on the date they have given. I should take delivery in the first week of March.
The IRS has not set any date for the tax credit change. The only date so far is the estimated release of the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) which is required to be submitted for public comment before final rules are drafted and put into effect. It's possible, but increasingly unlikely, that all of that could happen before March 31st.
I'm also OD 1/14, picking up from Fremont, LR/W/W/19/Tow, EDD 2/14-2/24, still no VIN.
scionbox
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Same here. The price cut was the main incentives here (although I did not order one until the price went up $500 again). EV credit is a very nice bonus comparing to the $13K ($12.5K in my case) price drop.
When the EDD is pushed back to April, it is clearer that my decision is more based on the original price drop.
My guess is that Tesla wanted to "lock" us in with the price cut. And the same time, they will graduately increase the price by $3,750 by April (from $52,990 to $56,740). Assume the EV credits cut from $7,500 to $3,750 after March, customers ordered MYLR at $52,990 taking delivery after March still get $3,750 EV credits (net price is $49,240). Comparing to those who order one in April for $56,740 with $3,750 EV credit (net price is $52,990), the customers "locked" in earlier still pay $3,750 less which will give the illusioin of getting the full $7,500 EV credits.
My wild guess. I still wish I get the delivery with the full $7,500.
I think IRS may move the date after Musk's visit earlier but that will be not good for other local companies and for money politicians can sell their souls So I think it may have low chances to move the date.
I'm not a tax or law professional so I have no idea if that's possible. Seems exceedingly unlikely though, if a move like that were in the works, there would have to be a political will for it, frustrating thousands of consumers and several S&P 500 companies with a surprise tax change wouldn't be a winning strategy for anybody.
scionbox
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See page 5 of the above rulemaking process:
In general, agencies will specify a comment period ranging from 30 to 60 days in the “Dates” section of the Federal Register document, but the time period can vary. For complex rulemakings, agencies may provide for longer time periods, such as 180 days or more. Agencies may also use shorter comment periods when that can be justified.
Although I thought all news outlets said the proposed rule issuing date will determine the eligibility of the EV credits right away. I don't recall anyone mention the comment period will delay the effective date.
I have seen two of my friends from here in NH do the same.. pickup from Paramus.
When you put in your drivers license for the registration stuff after the order, it gives us the location as Paramus NJ..I have not found a way to change that.
rizradmd
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Does anyone have firsthand experience of getting complimentary car service to pick up their delivery? I’m about 15 miles from SC
Here's the most detailed article I've seen from any news outlet, written by a corporate tax lawyer who actually read the IRS white paper that announced the March window for the release of the notice of proposed rulemaking.
A Closer Look At Forthcoming Tax Guidance On Electric Vehicle Credits
Marie Sapirie analyzes the December 2022 white paper released by Treasury and the IRS, which offers a preview of proposed section 30D guidance regarding qualification for electric vehicle credits.
www.forbes.com
The problem with most of the news articles on this is they're written by someone whose expertise is the automotive column, not a tax or law column. Those people are less likely to understand what an NPRM is and what it means, so they just saw "March" and ran with it, fueling the confusion that we now have.
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holdmybeer
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Par for course. OD 1/13 (morning) LR/W/W/19/Tow. EDD 2/16-3/16. No VIN. I just expect to get bumped ...
Good luck if looking outside Tesla. I knew what I was signing up for. Indeed my rep warned about missing the credits by ordering so late in Feb.
scionbox
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Thank you!Here's the most detailed article I've seen from any news outlet, written by a corporate tax lawyer who actually read the IRS white paper that announced the March window for the release of the notice of proposed rulemaking.
Quoted here is her bottom line:A Closer Look At Forthcoming Tax Guidance On Electric Vehicle Credits
Marie Sapirie analyzes the December 2022 white paper released by Treasury and the IRS, which offers a preview of proposed section 30D guidance regarding qualification for electric vehicle credits.
The problem with most of the new articles on this is they're written by someone whose expertise is the automotive column, not a tax or law column. Those people are less likely to understand what an NPRM is and what it means, so they just saw "March" and ran with it, fueling the confusion that we now have.
From the rulemaking process, it seems that there will be a comment period of 30-60 days and it can be as long as 180 days for complex issues (which I believe this one will be a good example).
There is nothing really we can do here other than speculating the proposed guidance until March. When that is out, the news outlets will focus on the "comment period" and the effective date.
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