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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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Total novice to all this, so in advance excuse my ignorance.

Picked up my 1 year Tesla 3 LR on Tuesday, already on IO using my Ohme pro.
Took an age but eventually managed to run a test charge and IO app registered the car and mapped a schedule yesterday evening.
But I noticed last night, while I was busy, it started charging(3KW), within an hour(7pm) of me getting IO mapped schedule. Switched off the Tesla app charging. So to avoid confusion I removed any old schedules from the Ohme app and deleted it.
Eventually, it stayed off, happened twice and charged as per IO schedule.

Just tried the same tonight, IO mapped schedule in place(2am on), three times I've gone back to my Tesla app, and its charging again(6:30pm), even though I've stopped it three times already in the last hour.

Any ideas?
When it created the schedule, for 2am, didn't IO stop charging the car? I am new in IO as well, I try to avoid stopping/starting the charge manually through the app.

Also, what do you use for connection to IO? the charger or the car? I am using the car (as my charger is the Easee) so if you use the charger it may something in its settings....
 
When it created the schedule, for 2am, didn't IO stop charging the car? I am new in IO as well, I try to avoid stopping/starting the charge manually through the app.

Also, what do you use for connection to IO? the charger or the car? I am using the car (as my charger is the Easee) so if you use the charger it may something in its settings....
I'm using the car, as I've deleted the Ohme pro app.
The charging just starts up randomly it seems , a good time after the cars plugged in.
 
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It's app has been deleted and had no schedules on it before
Was the Tesla linked with the ohme before you deleted the ohme app? The ohme might still be connected to the Tesla, aware that it wants charged and obliging by starting a charge session. I had similar issues by not unlinked the Tesla from the ohme so wasn't totally dumb. I prefer and use the ohme integration now though.
 
How do you unlink the Ohme from The Tesla?
I rebooted the Ohme box outside, but it seems to still have a schedule on the screen.
Couldn’t find an option for a factory reset.
You could ring ohme customer support and ask them to remove the Tesla API link to the charger (assuming you previously had it linked). Alternatively, reinstall the ohme app. If on reinstating it doesn't remember your previous EV, add the Tesla but don't give it the Tesla API. If on reinstating the app it remembers the Tesla, go to 'manage EV' switch cars to a non ohme integrated car (such as a Volvo) and then switch back to the Tesla (but again without giving the API). There's not an easy way with the App to just remove it unfortunately.
 
You could ring ohme customer support and ask them to remove the Tesla API link to the charger (assuming you previously had it linked). Alternatively, reinstall the ohme app. If on reinstating it doesn't remember your previous EV, add the Tesla but don't give it the Tesla API. If on reinstating the app it remembers the Tesla, go to 'manage EV' switch cars to a non ohme integrated car (such as a Volvo) and then switch back to the Tesla (but again without giving the API). There's not an easy way with the App to just remove it unfortunately.
“and then switch back to the Tesla (but again without giving the API)”
Like I said, I’m pretty new to all this, if I enter the Tesla after the Volvo trick, how do I switch back without give API?
API is all a bit of a mystery to me. I used to have an MG4, which had no API support.
 
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“and then switch back to the Tesla (but again without giving the API)”
Like I said, I’m pretty new to all this, if I enter the Tesla after the Volvo trick, how do I switch back without give API?
API is all a bit of a mystery to me. I used to have an MG4, which had no API support.
After selecting tesla as your car brand, your given the options 'account sign in' or 'connect without account'. Chose 'connect without account'.
 
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already on IO using my Ohme pro.
Personally, I would stay on Ohme integration right now. Especially if you have another EV in the household. The direct polling of the Tesla API is imo not as good as it was after they fixed the earlier phantom drain issue. Unless you know what you're doing it's now very slow to stop plug-in charging. You've nothing to lose other that not being able to easily see your schedule in the Octopus app.
 
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That’s quite a glitch. I have emailed them and I’m sure it will be sorted, itwas a bit of a shock though last night to see my account at -£7k!
Indeed. Bearing in mind how many people have mentioned this, I’m surprised Octopus haven’t proactively sorted it out and have instead left it to customers to get a shock and reach out to them. But then, as I keep saying, Octopus have very good and innovative products, but their CS is pretty horrid.
 
ng a fussy engineer I charge to 90% most of the time and 100% once a fortnight. But it probably doesnt make a meaningful difference to battery degradation. LFP degradation is really low compared yo the cadmium batteries. We’ll see in a few years time!

First image after I stop it charging again.
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'Ready to depart at 07.15'.

whichever app tells to car to be ready at 07.15 is overriding the IO schedule.


Regarding the billing of 11th of January, it has been due to a firmware update to smart meters. Should be proactively fixed though.