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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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How did you manage that?

Significantly cheaper than the current IO rates I’m paying. Sign of a forthcoming price cut…?
I decided to swap to IO 4 days before my old fix expired. I did that so I could see IO rates on my bill that is due on the 17th of the month.
I'm not sure if that made any difference...
I just looked at IO rates for where I live and it's quoting the higher rates;
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Go figure!
However maybe rates are at last starting to come down?
 
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Has anyone else had issues with IO not charging?
Problems here too for the last couple of nights. It keeps trying to charge during each scheduled charge window but then stops again a small number of minutes later. It hardly added any charge last night despite me wanting it to go from 55% to 90%.
Trying again tonight is just as bad, it schedules a charge but keeps cancelling it once started. I've rebooted the car computer, power cycled the wall charger. The only way to make it charge without cutting out is to switch off Smart Charging in the io app settings. I've put a support query in.
 
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Getting to the point where I’m considering stopping them manage my charge.

Plugged in last night requiring 50% charge overnight, which takes in the region of 5 1/2 hours.

Octopus gave me an 8 hour window. Somehow within that window, it’s not found a suitable 5 1/2 hours for me to charge and I’ve woken up with only 30% added.

I don’t understand why they aren’t charging long enough when they’re clearly giving a big enough window.
 
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Getting to the point where I’m considering stopping them manage my charge.

Plugged in last night requiring 50% charge overnight, which takes in the region of 5 1/2 hours.

Octopus gave me an 8 hour window. Somehow within that window, it’s not found a suitable 5 1/2 hours for me to charge and I’ve woken up with only 30% added.

I don’t understand why they aren’t charging long enough when they’re clearly giving a big enough window.
What charger have you onboarded with? This sounds like a classic situation where IO thinks your EVSE can deliver a higher kWh rate than is available.

My suggestion: go through onboarding again. At charger selection, choose "Generic 7.4kW charger"
 
What charger have you onboarded with? This sounds like a classic situation where IO thinks your EVSE can deliver a higher kWh rate than is available.

My suggestion: go through onboarding again. At charger selection, choose "Generic 7.4kW charger"
I might give it a go, but I have Hypervolt charger, which is what I onboarded with, and I think these are a flat 7kWh charger?

Looking at it last night, it gave me an 8 hour charging window and only charged for just over 3 hours total, spread out in spurts through the night.

I’ve been on boarded this whole time with the same car/charger and the lack of charge just seems to be getting worse and worse. It was fine at the beginning and now it’s just leaving me short all the time, despite giving long enough windows to get the charge in.

I’ve tried contacting octopus on multiple
occasions, via phone, and email to both ‘hello’ and ‘smart’ emails, and just get told ‘we’ll escalate to the smart team’ and I never hear anything back.
 
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I might give it a go, but I have Hypervolt charger, which is what I onboarded with, and I think these are a flat 7kWh charger?

Looking at it last night, it gave me an 8 hour charging window and only charged for just over 3 hours total, spread out in spurts through the night.

I’ve been on boarded this whole time with the same car/charger and the lack of charge just seems to be getting worse and worse. It was fine at the beginning and now it’s just leaving me short all the time, despite giving long enough windows to get the charge in.

I’ve tried contacting octopus on multiple
occasions, via phone, and email to both ‘hello’ and ‘smart’ emails, and just get told ‘we’ll escalate to the smart team’ and I never hear anything back.
Definitely odd. I have the same Hypervolt and am experiencing no issue. Would it be possible for you to be up and about at the start of one of the schedules and check the full 32A is being delivered in the Tesla app? Could probably be done with a basic quick plug and charge as well if you don't want to stay up to check it.

Also, next time you get a schedule, would you mind posting a screenshot of it here along with the current SoC% of your car?
 
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Just switched to IO and got better rates than expected, fixed till next year!
I was expecting 42p peak and 10p off-peak.

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A similar thing happened to my Dad on renewal:

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Yes, that's right, a 2022 fixed tariff, fixed until March 2024. I'm calling it an Octoblob cockup, but in the customer's favour for a change. Let's hope they don't notice :)
 
I had to manually stop a charge a few days ago. It had overrun its 30 minute time slot and we were charging in peak rate. I gave it a few minutes to sort itself out which it didn't, so went into the Tesla app.

Car was obviously awake and charging according to the smart meter, but app showed charge as not charging - it was showing as charging a few minutes before. Eventually (after 6 minutes so long enough I think to have reasonably expected it to have stopped) I unlocked charge port from the app, the app threw an error (charge port not engaged) which then cleared and charge eventually stopped. Had I not intervened, I probably would have had an unnecessary 10kWh at peak rate.

Surprised that (Tesla) app was offering me to start charge even though the car was actually charging at that point, or at least, smart meter was indicating that it was by the amount of power it was showing as being consumed.
 
A similar thing happened to my Dad on renewal:

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Yes, that's right, a 2022 fixed tariff, fixed until March 2024. I'm calling it an Octoblob cockup, but in the customer's favour for a change. Let's hope they don't notice :)
I’d take this tariff over my current tariff if I could access it.
standing charge slightly higher than I am currently on, peak lower and off peak the same but fixed through this winter coming.
 
Got back yesterday on <10%, made sure all scheduling was off at the location in the car and charge limit for not car and OE set to 80%. Got a charge schedule from 16:00 - 08:30 (leave time) and left it. This morning the car charged all that time continuously without issue and is on 53% this morning which is what I’d expect. Maybe this was a temporary glitch with OE.
 
Are a lot of you charging on 3 pin plugs? I've been on Intelligent for about 8 months now, and never really had a problem with the car not hitting it's charge goal. I have had issues around Octopus recognising the car was plugged in, but this was after an update, and was sorted out within a week (During, I just stopped smart charging)
Maybe Octopus are finally starting to restrict the use of 3 pins and very long charge windows, all of which would be on the off peak time?
 
With a few niggles, have been regularly charging to 80% for the last month since my MYLR arrived. Turned the car limit up to 100% for a longer journey, and also the IO app to 100%, but charging still stops at 80%. App messages me to say it failed to reach charge limit. Anyone else had this experience?
 
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I've now had a couple of Smart Charges work properly this afternoon, started on schedule and didn't cut out, so maybe the issue has gone away. Next one dies at 11pm, still hopefully it gets a good charge overnight, else I'll be calling at a supercharger for longer tomorrow than I currently plan.