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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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Scheduling from a low state of charge and using a 3-pin connection can result in scheduled charging outside peak, that if requested after 13:30 helps to add useful load during that 3-hour window without paying peak rate to help increase the net reward. Similar reason why my phone is now at 27% SoC. Also a good time to sanitise hot water tank through heat pump (or tank immersion heating element).
 
Hi All,

I'm currently on Ovo's variable rate and am getting a charger installed next week as I've just taken delivery of a new Model 3.

I'm quite a heavy user of electricity, and am currently on Ovo's variable rate which seems to have a slightly cheaper standing charge. Is there a way to figure out i'll save money or am I basically guaranteed to save money moving to OI because I'm now charging a car?
 
Hi All,

I'm currently on Ovo's variable rate and am getting a charger installed next week as I've just taken delivery of a new Model 3.

I'm quite a heavy user of electricity, and am currently on Ovo's variable rate which seems to have a slightly cheaper standing charge. Is there a way to figure out i'll save money or am I basically guaranteed to save money moving to OI because I'm now charging a car?
That's a how long is a piece of string question.

Do a spreadsheet, work out your house usage over a year. Work out your off-peak base load and what you can time shift into the off-peak period. Then add your projected car charging into the off-peak period. Compare to your current tariff.
 
That's a how long is a piece of string question.

Do a spreadsheet, work out your house usage over a year. Work out your off-peak base load and what you can time shift into the off-peak period. Then add your projected car charging into the off-peak period. Compare to your current tariff.
I did a quick calculation based off one full charge per week, which is likely for me, I'll be saving £400 by going to OI assuming I just charge off peak vs current rate so yes, it's significantly cheaper before I even move anything else off peak.
 
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HI - anyone else in this position. I have a Model 3 connected to my Tesla Wall Charger. The car is connected to WIFI, is at 50% charge with a charge limit of 80% and no scheduling/other apps to control. I have tried to sign up to IO but get this error, 'We could not complete your test charge.' Any ideas where I'm going wrong? Very frustrating!
 
Finally managed to connect our car to OE following the API update. It’s done it’s test and has given us a schedule or 19:06 - 08:00. Does this mean we are on low tariff all that time? Wondering if this is a first charge thing?

Edit: we’re just using 3pin charger that came with the car.

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Finally managed to connect our car to OE following the API update. It’s done it’s test and has given us a schedule or 19:06 - 08:00. Does this mean we are on low tariff all that time? Wondering if this is a first charge thing?

Edit: we’re just using 3pin charger that came with the car.

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Yes. If you re using the granny charger octopus is quite generous with the time slots as they know it will take you longer to charge.
Indeed you are on the cheap rate during this whole time. Enjoy!
 
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HI - anyone else in this position. I have a Model 3 connected to my Tesla Wall Charger. The car is connected to WIFI, is at 50% charge with a charge limit of 80% and no scheduling/other apps to control. I have tried to sign up to IO but get this error, 'We could not complete your test charge.' Any ideas where I'm going wrong? Very frustrating!
From personal experience, try to keep the app open during the 5-10 minutes the test takes and don’t let your phone go to sleep/lock.
Had a couple of failed attempts before I made a point to stare at the screen for the whole time and that time it finally worked.
 
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Just a heads up guys it’s now working. Manage to connect my Model 3 to the app and switch today.

You need to update the octopus app on though prior to this. It must include the fix we needed for the API.

Did you see these posts?
i Tried to swap our Tesla on IO for an e-tron, a couple of weeks ago, and I had a similar message.
I read a couple of quick fixes and one said it might be location settings. However I couldn’t find out how/if it was turned on so I switched back to the Tesla.