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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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You are artificially gimping the schedule IO is generating, but complaining about unexpected results. Set Intelligent to deliver what you need and don't limit from the car. You're lucky they refunded you.

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I don't think it is gimping the system. IO chose to charge outside of the overnight window and then billed at the higher rate. I have set the car to charge to a lower level, I am not influencing the charge time. It can only charge when it is below the car setting. I am surprised no one else is doing it this way as it makes much more sense. Gimping the system is not using the schedules and charging during the low rate times manually, which is what I should be doing as I have solar.
 
I am not influencing the charge time
You are influencing the schedule. Think about it. You are creating charge times that are sub optimal for the system because IO thinks you need to get to 100%, so it's scheduling higher CO2/cost/demand slots to hit them, even though you don't need them.

Aside from this, it's a bit rich to complain of out of band charges when you aren't using the system as it's supposed to be. The was the real point. Use it properly, then complain if you're still getting peak charges when you think you shouldn't be.
 
Aside from this, it's a bit rich to complain of out of band charges when you aren't using the system as it's supposed to be. The was the real point. Use it properly, then complain if you're still getting peak charges when you think you shouldn't be.
I can't find it now but when I signed up it said that IO would not charge beyond the car limit and it didn't say anywhere that I should set the charge limit of the car higher than the IO limit. The call centre guy said it needed to be the other way round but couldn't say why and couldn't show me where it said it, he had no real understanding of car charging beyond the basics. I've asked for them to come back to me and explain why and where it is documented. My only issue is IO state they will never charge you more than the lower rate if they choose to charge in day. I've had charges initiated at the usual peak time of 5-7pm and been charged at the lower rate, so it definitely works. In this instance the charge was later than my ready time of 5:30am and it didn't use all the low rate time band but then decided to charge at around 9am at full price.

Anyway no one has seen anything similar I will contact them again and try and get clarification for my own sanity.
 
I can't find it now but when I signed up it said that IO would not charge beyond the car limit and it didn't say anywhere that I should set the charge limit of the car higher than the IO limit. The call centre guy said it needed to be the other way round but couldn't say why and couldn't show me where it said it, he had no real understanding of car charging beyond the basics. I've asked for them to come back to me and explain why and where it is documented. My only issue is IO state they will never charge you more than the lower rate if they choose to charge in day. I've had charges initiated at the usual peak time of 5-7pm and been charged at the lower rate, so it definitely works. In this instance the charge was later than my ready time of 5:30am and it didn't use all the low rate time band but then decided to charge at around 9am at full price.

Anyway no one has seen anything similar I will contact them again and try and get clarification for my own sanity.
Are you sure the 09:00 charge was at full price because the odd out of schedule charge (23:30-05:30) initiated by IO on my car when plugged in has always been at the low rate when looking at my bill. I’ve had the odd 30min/1hr charge at 11:00 and 14:00 before today. Another point to note when you sign up you are signing that you are fully aware IO is a beta software tariff and they cannot guarantee 100% control/performance although obviously that's what they try to achieve.
 
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I can't find it now but when I signed up it said that IO would not charge beyond the car limit and it didn't say anywhere that I should set the charge limit of the car higher than the IO limit. The call centre guy said it needed to be the other way round but couldn't say why and couldn't show me where it said it, he had no real understanding of car charging beyond the basics. I've asked for them to come back to me and explain why and where it is documented. My only issue is IO state they will never charge you more than the lower rate if they choose to charge in day. I've had charges initiated at the usual peak time of 5-7pm and been charged at the lower rate, so it definitely works. In this instance the charge was later than my ready time of 5:30am and it didn't use all the low rate time band but then decided to charge at around 9am at full price.

Anyway no one has seen anything similar I will contact them again and try and get clarification for my own sanity.
It actually warns you in the app, if you set the car limit lower than the octopus limit, and asks you to adjust it……
 
Other than a few weeks back, not had any notifications about our IO yet, but in last 2 days had notifications for reduce gas and (different location) electricity. ~14% iirc.

Fingers crossed that IO will get another price reduction. I think the one a few weeks back was ~7%?
 
Curiously, we’ve been in Spain for almost 3 months with Smart charging turned off and Octopus haven’t nagged me. I wonder if it’s because the car hasn’t been near the house?
It is best to keep it off when away otherwise they might stop your charge thinking you are at home and try to schedule a charge!

Based on Octopus's email support taking weeks to reply and action anything I suspect that them contacting customer with intelligent is probably unlikely to happen anytime soon!
 
It is best to keep it off when away otherwise they might stop your charge thinking you are at home and try to schedule a charge!

Based on Octopus's email support taking weeks to reply and action anything I suspect that them contacting customer with intelligent is probably unlikely to happen anytime soon!
Yeah, switched Smart Charge off as soon as I departed home. Don’t want IO incorrectly ending any charges or keeping my car awake trying to poll it.
 
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