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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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Also, I have just had a heatpump installed so would it be a good idea to get the car to start a charge, then stop it so that I can power the heatpump for the house on the cheap rate overnight? or does this not matter and I get cheap rate every night even if I don't charge the car....?

Anything you run in the house during the cheap rate gets the cheap rate, be it during the standard overnight period or also the additional slots outside this period that IO creates on occasion. Also, the cheap rate overnight exists whether the car is charging or not.
 
Is anyone having issues getting schedules in the app to update?
I’ll plug the car in and set the app up and the schedule doesn’t change when I refresh the page but I get a notification with a new schedule. Been similar since yesterday afternoon.
When I change the settings to stop charging nothing happens and the car carries on charging.
may have to delete the app, I’ve logged out and logged back in, no difference.
 
Is anyone having issues getting schedules in the app to update?
I’ll plug the car in and set the app up and the schedule doesn’t change when I refresh the page but I get a notification with a new schedule. Been similar since yesterday afternoon.
When I change the settings to stop charging nothing happens and the car carries on charging.
may have to delete the app, I’ve logged out and logged back in, no difference.
Edit : working normally at 7.30am today
 
Is anyone having issues getting schedules in the app to update?
I’ll plug the car in and set the app up and the schedule doesn’t change when I refresh the page but I get a notification with a new schedule. Been similar since yesterday afternoon.
When I change the settings to stop charging nothing happens and the car carries on charging.
may have to delete the app, I’ve logged out and logged back in, no difference.
I think Octopus have been having server issues. My app has been very flakey for the past few days. The devices tab often doesn’t appear and even loading up my account page has repeatedly failed.
 
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I think Octopus have been having server issues. My app has been very flakey for the past few days. The devices tab often doesn’t appear and even loading up my account page has repeatedly failed.
This.
Almost feels like ingesting hundreds of thousands of new customers from another company is putting a toll on their systems… (surprise surprise!)
 
I am having some difficulty moving from Flux to IO + Outgoing Fixed 15p.
Cannot seem to get anyone in the smart team.
I spoke with someone this morning who did not accept that you could get a 15p export tariff if you are on IO!
I can find no-one to do me a short cut from Flux without going through the form and providing docs I previously submitted years ago!
So I fiiled in the form and no doubt it has disappeared down a black hole but apparently you have to get Outgoing before the IO form will consider you.
I'm having exactly the same problem. Apart from being cut off, twice, having waited 20 min in the queue.
This is the most clumsy switch I've experienced with Octopus. I had to request the switch via email and was switched to outgoing lite and given a link to IO to sign up. I tried only for the website to vote up with " you can't switch on this export tariff, you have to sign up to SEG".
It really shouldn't be this complicated for current customers who have been on the tariff before and have given all the information required in a previous application which is stored on their system.
 
I think I got half a charge schedule but car charged OK.

Got iPhone notification pop up with two lines of times, so went into app to see what they were and app was only showing the before midnight 1/2 hour slot, below.

Car did actually charge over both slots even though app showed only to short one.

There was actually a 00:30-05:00 slot after this one that car successfully charged in and initially was shown in iOS pop up notification. But not showing here in the app.

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