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Wiki Everything you wanted to know about Intelligent Octopus But Were Afraid To Ask

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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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Won’t the meter just read zero for those slots?
If the meter misses a reading, there seems to be two options. The first is to re-request the reading from some database, but if they cannot get it, the whole day gets charged at some variable rate. The key is to request that Octopus re-request the missing reading. Their systems seem to be clever enough to work out missed days and bill them as individual invoices.
 
If the meter misses a reading, there seems to be two options. The first is to re-request the reading from some database, but if they cannot get it, the whole day gets charged at some variable rate. The key is to request that Octopus re-request the missing reading. Their systems seem to be clever enough to work out missed days and bill them as individual invoices.
But it's not a missed reading, though, surely?
There's no power. The reading is 0.
I can't believe this failure mode hasn't been planned for when designing the system?
 
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If the power is off there's nothing to record.. if a smart meter loses connection it stores the records until it gets connection again, so intermittent connection is not an issue, there won't be unexplainable gaps.
Here is an example of one of the catch-up invoices I had

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But it's not a missed reading, though, surely?
There's no power. The reading is 0.
I can't believe this failure mode hasn't been planned for when designing the system?
it is a missing Smart meter reading, they got 47 and not 48 readings; they had to request the missing reading off some central database, and then they can bill the day. Our bills come out the day after the monthly billing period.
 
If the meter misses a reading, there seems to be two options. The first is to re-request the reading from some database, but if they cannot get it, the whole day gets charged at some variable rate. The key is to request that Octopus re-request the missing reading. Their systems seem to be clever enough to work out missed days and bill them as individual invoices.
My gas meter frequently drops connection to the Electricity meter for up to 10 days at a time since May so before the billing cycle I send Octopus a request (via X/Twitter) for them to 'pull' the data. On each occasion I get a prompt reply that they are doing that & then the data appears followed by the correct billing.

I also submit a manual Gas reading on the due date so on the one occasion the data was irretrievable I was merely billed the average Gas Tracker cost for the period (each day was billed at that average rate with consumption calculated from the day prior & the day after data resumption. This was during the summer so the overall bill was mostly standing charge anyway).

My payments have always been by Variable Direct Debit so I prefer to budget by paying correctly each month & Octopus have been faultless in their responsiveness and accuracy for the 4+ years I've been a customer.
 
My gas meter frequently drops connection to the Electricity meter for up to 10 days at a time since May so before the billing cycle I send Octopus a request (via X/Twitter) for them to 'pull' the data. On each occasion I get a prompt reply that they are doing that & then the data appears followed by the correct billing.

I also submit a manual Gas reading on the due date so on the one occasion the data was irretrievable I was merely billed the average Gas Tracker cost for the period (each day was billed at that average rate with consumption calculated from the day prior & the day after data resumption. This was during the summer so the overall bill was mostly standing charge anyway).

My payments have always been by Variable Direct Debit so I prefer to budget by paying correctly each month & Octopus have been faultless in their responsiveness and accuracy for the 4+ years I've been a customer.
I too pay via variable DD. October bill for all energy was an expensive £73.18, but that did include the power for 2 BEVs.
 
I've recently been having issues with my Zappi 2 & Tesla 3 in that I cannot get the Octopus app to create a charging schedule. I plug in with the Zappi in "FAST" mode, stop the charge using the Tesla app, and then usually I get a schedule appear in the Octopus app within a few minutes, but in the last few days I have just get the message about waiting for the car to be plugged in.

It has work successfully for months, so I wonder what has changed? Is IO trying to schedule via the Zappi?
 
I've recently been having issues with my Zappi 2 & Tesla 3 in that I cannot get the Octopus app to create a charging schedule. I plug in with the Zappi in "FAST" mode, stop the charge using the Tesla app, and then usually I get a schedule appear in the Octopus app within a few minutes, but in the last few days I have just get the message about waiting for the car to be plugged in.

It has work successfully for months, so I wonder what has changed? Is IO trying to schedule via the Zappi?
I don’t have a Zappi (the Tesla 3 is connected to IO) but recently there has been a long time between plugging in, stopping the charge and the charge schedule arriving. The other day I plugged in the car at 10:00 and did not get a schedule in the app until 14:30.
 
I don’t have a Zappi (the Tesla 3 is connected to IO) but recently there has been a long time between plugging in, stopping the charge and the charge schedule arriving. The other day I plugged in the car at 10:00 and did not get a schedule in the app until 14:30.


There should be a way of forcing IO to stop the charge and create a schedule, but I haven't found one yet. Even changing the %age charge or departure time doesn't seem to prompt IO to create a schedule.

Interestingly, I woke up at 6am today, checked the Octopus app and as soon as I refreshed it, it gave me a schedule of 6:00am to 8:00am and started charging.