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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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What happens if you disable smart charge in the Octopus app (under settings, devices) and plug the car into the charger? Does the car charge?
If I plug the car into the charger, it starts charging whether I have Smart charging enabled or not. Tesla says the IO is continually trying to charge the cr overnight but keeps getting the message that the car is either asleep or unavailable.
 
That worked - kind of - I got a pop up notification on iPhone with a schedule in it (could only see part of it), the octopus app however still not showing the schedule. Been lots of octopus app releases recently - think they have test issues and release quality issues. will stay up to see if it starts charging!
It worked - not sure when it charged within the schedule but it was charged overnight and was not charging when I checked after off peak territory.

So if it helps my tips are:


  • Make sure you are with the car when you add the car to Octopus app as it is location specific
  • If it is a lease and you the get a virtual key fails just click the have added key
  • Test charge works as normal
  • Make sure all other apps incl Tesla have not scheduled charging in them
  • Make sure car is on wifi for the set up
  • It seems to take time for the Octo app to show the schedule but when you set the charge in the app you will get a pop up notification of the schedule even if the app does not show it

This is for Tesla and Octopus for a switch to the Octopus Intelligent Tarrif for EV's
 
It worked - not sure when it charged within the schedule but it was charged overnight and was not charging when I checked after off peak territory.

So if it helps my tips are:


  • Make sure you are with the car when you add the car to Octopus app as it is location specific
  • If it is a lease and you the get a virtual key fails just click the have added key
  • Test charge works as normal
  • Make sure all other apps incl Tesla have not scheduled charging in them
  • Make sure car is on wifi for the set up
  • It seems to take time for the Octo app to show the schedule but when you set the charge in the app you will get a pop up notification of the schedule even if the app does not show it

This is for Tesla and Octopus for a switch to the Octopus Intelligent Tarrif for EV's
was just a delay as was within 12 hours - notification quicker than app update
 
Im about to change from a BMW330 to MYP, currently i have octopus go set up on my ohme home pro (charger controls charge not the car currently).

During setup i had to tell octopus which car i had and which charger, how do i change the car so that the charging sessions take into account the bigger battery? do i just do that on the ohme app and this will inform octopus or do i need to run the full setup again.

On a side note.. am i better to continue to let the charger control it (ive had no probs so far) or better to set it up as dumb and have the car be registered on IOG
 
Im about to change from a BMW330 to MYP, currently i have octopus go set up on my ohme home pro (charger controls charge not the car currently).

During setup i had to tell octopus which car i had and which charger, how do i change the car so that the charging sessions take into account the bigger battery? do i just do that on the ohme app and this will inform octopus or do i need to run the full setup again.

On a side note.. am i better to continue to let the charger control it (ive had no probs so far) or better to set it up as dumb and have the car be registered on IOG
Just carry on using the charger for IO.

What was the size of the battery on the BMW? in general, Teslas dont have the biggest battery. Just set the octopus app to charge to 100% and whatever time you want it by. Your car will only be set to charge to 80% anyway for daily use.
 
Im about to change from a BMW330 to MYP, currently i have octopus go set up on my ohme home pro (charger controls charge not the car currently).

During setup i had to tell octopus which car i had and which charger, how do i change the car so that the charging sessions take into account the bigger battery? do i just do that on the ohme app and this will inform octopus or do i need to run the full setup again.

On a side note.. am i better to continue to let the charger control it (ive had no probs so far) or better to set it up as dumb and have the car be registered on IOG
Does the Ohme link into your Tesla account to obtain the SoC? If so, I’d imagine you just need to update that connection. If it doesn’t, then in the Octopus app disconnect your current device and set it up again.
 
Does the Ohme link into your Tesla account to obtain the SoC? If so, I’d imagine you just need to update that connection. If it doesn’t, then in the Octopus app disconnect your current device and set it up again.
Ill mess about once i get it and report back here what i need to do as no doubt someone else will have same question in future, thanks
 
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I have a zappi charger and a M3LR. I am constantly getting a charge blocked code from the charger which apparently means it’s wanting to charge the car, but the car won’t accept it. Anyone else come across this? On the verge of waiting back to the normal Go tariff as I haven’t had a single night where intelligent has worked.
 
I have a zappi charger and a M3LR. I am constantly getting a charge blocked code from the charger which apparently means it’s wanting to charge the car, but the car won’t accept it. Anyone else come across this? On the verge of waiting back to the normal Go tariff as I haven’t had a single night where intelligent has worked.
You need to provide some more information before we can even begin to troubleshoot the problem. Are you onboarded via Zappi integration or Tesla integration?
 
I have a zappi charger and a M3LR. I am constantly getting a charge blocked code from the charger which apparently means it’s wanting to charge the car, but the car won’t accept it. Anyone else come across this? On the verge of waiting back to the normal Go tariff as I haven’t had a single night where intelligent has worked.
Sounds like user misconfiguration. Possibly schedules set in the car? As browellm says, you need to provide way more information if you’re hoping for some help.

Though, if you’re already starting with thinking of going back to Go, maybe that’s for the best…
 
I’m onboard through car integration, there are no schedules set in the car. The charger is just on fast so no schedules in play there.

Seems to consistently charge for the first block of time. Then when it stops it never comes back online. So last night I charged from midnight to half past. Then was meant to start again at 3am and it didn’t work.
 
I’m onboard through car integration, there are no schedules set in the car. The charger is just on fast so no schedules in play there.

Seems to consistently charge for the first block of time. Then when it stops it never comes back online. So last night I charged from midnight to half past. Then was meant to start again at 3am and it didn’t work.
Do you have good cellular signal where your car is parked? Can you reliably wake up the car by opening the Tesla app?

Personally, if you’re using a Zappi, I would use the MyEnergi integration rather than the Tesla integration, as it’s more reliable, in my experience.
 
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Why don't you bypass the charger?
Plug the car into your 3 pin socket and try again. That's what I do as I haven't a charger.
Admittedly you have to double the charge time but you've got the time haven't you?
Set the car to 80% and the IO App to 80% and say 0700 completion time....see what happens