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Expired LTE

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by smilepak, Jul 15, 2016.

  1. smilepak

    smilepak Member

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    Who here have already gone pass their free LTE period from Tesla and having to start paying for it?

    1) How much is it at the moment?

    2) Anyone decided NOT to continue paying for LTE, how's the driving experience w/o it?

    Just curious...
     
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    AmpedRealtor Active Member

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    It expires? I was told my MX was for as long as I owned it.

    Who told you that it expires?
     
  4. Reeler

    Reeler 6 Years of Pure EV

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    XM/Sirius map updates on the LEAF used to go 3 years, but are now 3 months in the newer models. Data updates are going away for the early models that used 2G technology as ATT takes down 2G service. Nissan is apparently going to have an updated modem and data plan soon. I don't think anyone will pay for it as the capability is so pitiful as is their nav unit.
     
  5. mikeash

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    Data is included for four years, and the first Model Ss were delivered in June of 2012, so only a handful have gone past the limit (and who knows if Tesla has bothered to actually turn off their access yet). I think your questions are still unanswered for now. I'd expect some news on this in the next six months to a year, once significant numbers of cars start to go past the four year mark.
     
  6. TexasEV

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    Tesla said it would be free for four years. It's not been 4 years for anyone yet, and Tesla hasn't announced what would happen after that.
     
  7. Electric700

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    It has been over 4 years for some owners, since the first retail Model S deliveries were on June 22, 2012.
     
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    It's not 4 years from the date of delivery for early buyers, but rather 4 years from the date they decided to offer it free for 4 years. I've found references to this being in early 2014, but regardless of the exact date no one is there yet.
     
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  9. Sir Guacamolaf

    Sir Guacamolaf The good kind of fat

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    I can only hope they don't add Tesla markup to the LTE plan when we have to pay for it. Also I don't see a place to put a SIM card in, and it's AT&T in the US at least.
     
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  10. Max*

    Max* Autopilot != Autonomous

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    Ugh... no. June 22nd Tesla delivered the first car. It's July 15th. It's over 4 years.
    Tesla Motors Delivers World’s First Premium Electric Sedan to Customers
     
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    Max* Autopilot != Autonomous

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    Crap, I misread what he said, nevermind.
     
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    I could be misremembering it, but I believe it was January 1, 2014 that they started the 4 year thing. For every car delivered before that date, that's the date the 4 years started. For every car delivered after that date, the 4 years starts on the date of delivery. So, nobody has hit the end of their 4 years yet. They haven't announced what options will exist after the period expires.
     
  14. Reeler

    Reeler 6 Years of Pure EV

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    Any guess on the cost? Would you pay $500 per year?

    I would rather connect through WiFi to my phone hotspot.
     
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  15. Max*

    Max* Autopilot != Autonomous

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    $40/month? I'd pay, but I'd be pissed off

    If I could pay Tesla a one-time-flat-fee to install a SIM card which I can link to my ATT account for $10/month (or whatever it is), I'd prefer that route.
     
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    I can add a tablet to my AT&T plan for $10/month. $500/year would be way too much.
     
  17. HankLloydRight

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    IF they turn off non-telemetric cellular access, it won't change the "driving experience". You just won't get browser access or streaming audio. Nav will probably still be included because it was either part of the Tech package people paid extra for, or included as a standard option later on. The car will always have cellular access for internal telemetry, diagnosis, and firmware updates.

    I don't think Tesla will ever charge for cellular access, since they need it anyway, and the extra bandwidth from the browser is negligible (because the browser sucks). Streaming audio might really be the only thing affected if they start to charge.
     
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    I am sure at the time I ordered my car that there was something in the owners manual or somewhere that said that map updates and real-time traffic data would be provided free for 7 years. Looking at the latest owners manual it doesn't mention the period of free map updates nor real-time traffic. On the Tesla website it still talks about map updates for 7 years, but no longer mentions real-time traffic. The real-time traffic would seem to need cellular data. Also Tesla probably wants to continue to fetch logs etc, so even if you don't buy cellular service after 4 years, there will probably be some minimal level of function left.
     
  19. Sir Guacamolaf

    Sir Guacamolaf The good kind of fat

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    If Tesla charges a dime more than what TMobile or ATT charges to add a tablet to the plan, this guy will be wifi tethering through his phone. IMO its ridiculous for Tesla to even think that we will pay anything more than that. An iPad has so much more functionality, I'm not going to pay a crazy high price for a broken navigation system, and moody media player.

    .. okay piping down a bit .. Tesla hasn't released any pricing details, but I'd be Texas mad if they decide to gouge this captive audience. At 10 bucks a month, I'd be grumpy but I'd accept.
     
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    It's going to cost them more to administer the plan than they'll ever collect for it. That's why I don't think they'll ever charge for it, until perhaps the Model 3 comes out, and I'd even go as far to say at that point, it will be easy to add the car to your own cell phone plan.
     

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