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I believe there is only one charge, regardless of where you take delivery. If you take delivery in California and that's not your home state, there may be other tax implications but the Tesla fee should be the same.
gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
Yes, the charge for any form of delivery (incl pickup at the factory) is $990 (destination) + $180 (final prep) = $1,170.
It seems that "personal Delivery" is now a for fee option. I am fine with this as those that want to take delivery at the factory should be able to do so at a reduced fee.
From the news release:
When it comes to delivery, all customers have the option to upgrade to a "Tesla Personal Delivery." With this option, Tesla will deliver their car wherever a customer chooses: at home, at work, at a friend's house, at a hotel while on vacation, or anywhere else that brings a smile. During Tesla Personal Delivery, a Product Specialist will walk through many of the features that make Model S great and will explain important details customers need to know about owning Model S. Customers may choose to take delivery of their vehicle at Tesla's Fremont factory where they may also receive a tour to see where their vehicle was born.
From the news release:
When it comes to delivery, all customers have the option to upgrade to a "Tesla Personal Delivery." With this option, Tesla will deliver their car wherever a customer chooses: at home, at work, at a friend's house, at a hotel while on vacation, or anywhere else that brings a smile. During Tesla Personal Delivery, a Product Specialist will walk through many of the features that make Model S great and will explain important details customers need to know about owning Model S. Customers may choose to take delivery of their vehicle at Tesla's Fremont factory where they may also receive a tour to see where their vehicle was born.
gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
JakeP
S P4996 ==> P02547
But what if you fly out, tour the factory, hand in your check, and then let Tesla ship your car to your home state? Firstly, is this even an option, and secondly, when did you take possession...when the check was handed over, or when the car arrived at its home state? That isn't entirely clear to me after reading CKessel's details on the CA Alameda county tax.
It's going to be the date that the home state issues the title document. There might be some question if you first got a title document in California and then went to your State and transferred the title. In that case it would probably be the California date but I don't know if there has been any ruling on this.
JakeP
S P4996 ==> P02547
How is this working now, with people taking delivery in say Florida? Is the Titling being done while the vehicle is under its destination inspection at the Tesla service center? Or is that done after the owner takes possession? I assume for the sales in MA or TX, where the lawsuits against Tesla by the dealerships are underway, that the car is delivered with a CA title and then transferred to MA or TX.
This is a different situation than I am used to, where you leave the dealership lot, and all of that has been taken care of...and I live in a state that does not (yet) have a Tesla store or service center.
This is a different situation than I am used to, where you leave the dealership lot, and all of that has been taken care of...and I live in a state that does not (yet) have a Tesla store or service center.
In PA you pay for the vehicle before Tesla ships it. The car is delivered you with a CA temporary registration. Three weeks after I received the vehicle I received the required paperwork and check from Tesla to take to a notary and do the registration.
JakeP
S P4996 ==> P02547
I wonder if, for tax purposes, the car is "placed into service" in CA or in TX in this situation.
With the wording on the IRS site I would have to believe that it would not be prior to registration in your state but if they actually mean title date that can be some number of weeks after you register the vehicle from checking several of my titles.
I believe the vehicle would be considered placed in service in California, especially if you had actually driven the vehicle briefly and 'accepted' the car.
The IRS refers to 'the date on which title to that vehicle passes under state law.' In this context, 'title' does not mean registration but the actual ownership of the vehicle (under state law). In California, registration is transferred after the buyer has ownership of the vehicle.
Most of the vehicles delivered to other states are not accepted and driven by the owners in CA. This opens up all kinds of sales tax issues. After I received the appropriate paperwork from Tesla I registered the vehicle and applied for a title with my state Department of Motor Vehicles. So this isn't the title the IRS is referring to?
A (standard) title is issued to recognize the valid transfer of ownership but the buyer takes ownership once the buyer accepts the goods according to the terms of the contract.
So they might want the Title as a quick way of validating the sale, but the date of ownership should be able to come from the document that completes the contract.
Norbert
TSLA will win
Isn't there something that you sign when you receive the vehicle, to acknowledge that fact? (Which perhaps is also signed by Tesla?)
When I got the tax credit for my 2004 Prius my accountant had to attach a copy of the title. It's been awhile so I forget if I had to get it notarized or not. No other papers were required.
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