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Firmware 7.0
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JenniferQ
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I don't know yet. It's really gross out today. I will try tomorrow and report back. All I read on screen that was new was the Launch Mode and Nav fixes, same as someone else posted for 2.9.40. Then the rest below that seems to be the original 7.0 notes. It does say that AP is not available above 45mph on residential roads, but that's in the 7.0 notes so think that's been there all along? Can't remember but maybe someone who hasn't updated can check and see if theirs says something different?
HankLloydRight
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Andyw2100
Well-Known Member
Is "HeaterGate" acceptable? Sounds better.
No one is asking me, but I'll offer my two cents anyway: gate makes it sound like there is some sort of controversy surrounding this. For example, the version that in theory may have limited auto pilot features would have, in my mind, more appropriately had a "gate" appended on to its name. But if the purpose of naming this version is to recognize the fact that it is --solving-- a problem, the "gate" seems misguided.
dirkhh
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JenniferQ
Active Member
Yes, it does sound better. It's all in fun, right? I've been reading so much from those in colder climes who are freezing and I feel their pain - occasionally...:tongue:Is "HeaterGate" acceptable? Sounds better.
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And the big Clock is gone!:wink:
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AP not being available above 45 on residential roads was not in the original autopilot release notes. I believe it was added in the 2.9.40 release notes.
I have to disagree with you there. At some point a car with the AP restrictions will be involved in a catastrophic accident, at which point, plaintiff's lawyers will say that Tesla knew AP was unsafe because they chose to restrict it instead of placing responsibility solely on the driver.
IANAL but I suspect relevant case law is the numerous lawsuits over fatal crashes of the Carrera GT, which does not have electronic stability control (and is also the most awesome car I've ever had the privilege to drive).
$4.5 million awarded in Porsche Carrera GT case
Paul Walkers Daughter Files Wrongful Death Lawsuit Against PorscheÂ*
Paul Walkers Father Is Also Filing A Wrongful Death Lawsuit Against Porsche
Actually, that gets me thinking - perhaps Tesla can include a procedure to turn the AP limitations off that you have to do each time the car is started. It would then be similar to disabling stability control. Of course I prefer the current system but this might be a reasonable compromise.
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BertL
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2.9.68 Differences from 2.7.56
SC downloaded 7.0 2.9.68 while I was there yesterday for a couple other things. Given how late it was, they allowed me to perform the update at my convenience, which I did last night to replace 7.0 2.7.56 in my S90D. Estimated install time was 1 hr 40 mins. It's too early and weather is too ugly outside to try it on the road yet, but I've just spent some time looking at the displays and comparing release notes to photos I had taken of 2.7.56. Sorry if I've missed something, but wanted to get some facts out here vs the continued speculation in case it's useful to others. My first look at 2.9.68:
Physical/Display Differences 2.7.56 to 2.9.68
Release Notes
Two "New Features & Improvements" noted at the top of the screen
I've noted the following additional changes scanning photos of previous release notes to the new display (sure wish Tesla would use change bars, but we did get two new items called out above this time around!):
SC downloaded 7.0 2.9.68 while I was there yesterday for a couple other things. Given how late it was, they allowed me to perform the update at my convenience, which I did last night to replace 7.0 2.7.56 in my S90D. Estimated install time was 1 hr 40 mins. It's too early and weather is too ugly outside to try it on the road yet, but I've just spent some time looking at the displays and comparing release notes to photos I had taken of 2.7.56. Sorry if I've missed something, but wanted to get some facts out here vs the continued speculation in case it's useful to others.
My first look at 2.9.68:Physical/Display Differences 2.7.56 to 2.9.68
- IC now has temperature to right of Rated Range, as well as digital time to the left of gear position indicator at bottom of the display
- 17" retains digital time in upper right header, but has no temp
- The optional IC analog clock remains if one wants to use it, with the blue sweep second hand, and a loss of digital time on the face (I think it had? I don't use this, so don't remember for sure.)
- No other controls or settings have apparent changes as I flipped through them on the IC and 17", but I could have missed some nuance
- I see no change to Rated Range calculation after a 90% charge (see 90D thread)
Release Notes
Two "New Features & Improvements" noted at the top of the screen
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The way this works is you touch the Places button. The drop down shows 5 last destinations or searches where they can be tapped to be reentered. At the bottom of those 5 entries is a new "Offline Address Entry" selection that when touched provides a pop-up allowing an address, city and state to be manually entered.
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I've not tried this yet, but IMHO, changes are always welcome here. I previously fiddled with this and applied manual sweeps more in my MS than I ever did in my previous Lexus or MBZ when on Auto.
I've noted the following additional changes scanning photos of previous release notes to the new display (sure wish Tesla would use change bars, but we did get two new items called out above this time around!):
- A number of photos have been updated -- several help with clarity as to what's being described, or just include current display elements to match this release (like the blue sweep hand and lack of digital time in the optional analog clock)
- There is a specific new sentence at the top of the release notes now referring readers to the Owner's Manual for more detailed information
- For those that care about minutia, there are some font changes and text reformatting in the release notes themselves -- resulting in no substantive new/changed information... BUT what many of you likely care more about:
- Autosteer (NEW TEXT)
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- Autopark (NEW TEXT)
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Trailblazer
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I have 2.9.68 on my 85D. I drove around today and was able to activate Autosteer at 48 mph on a residential, 2-lane road with no problem. So far I don't see any difference in Autosteer from the previous firmware.
green1
Active Member
The language about 45mph was added in .40 but so far zero reports of it actually limiting except for the people on what we suspect was a leaked 7.1 beta.
Please, if anyone has actually seen the restrictions in action, let us know.
Please, if anyone has actually seen the restrictions in action, let us know.
BertL
Active Member
With just a few miles running errands on 2.9.68 just now, I agree that it appears there is no physical difference in Autopilot restrictions from what I knew with 2.7.56, and only the more restrictive language has (so far) been placed into the release notes ... i.e. what's written doesn't match what's presently implemented.
So, is there consensus that 7.0 versions do not actually include the autopilot limitations? If so I might see if service will stage it for me so I can get launch mode.
I think I've counted two confirmations, but I haven't read the whole thread...
I think I've counted two confirmations, but I haven't read the whole thread...
Andyw2100
Well-Known Member
So, is there consensus that 7.0 versions do not actually include the autopilot limitations? If so I might see if service will stage it for me so I can get launch mode.
I think I've counted two confirmations, but I haven't read the whole thread...
There are definitely more than two reports that the current versions (other than perhaps the versions that people think may have been incorrectly released beta versions) do not actually restrict the auto pilot the way the notes indicate that they do. And I believe on the flip side, there are no reports (again, those odd beta releases excluded) of any standard releases that have added restrictions.
So I think you should be safe, provided you get one of the versions people have been reporting on.
Edit: The one caveat I should add is that some fear that since the warning is in the notes, these versions could somehow allow Tesla to change something from their end, and limit autopilot that way, without an additional firmware update. I'm guessing you are aware of that concern, and discount it as unrealistic.
Why unrealistic? Wasn't Tesla able to disable AP in Hong Kong after it was already deployed?
Andyw2100
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I'm not making a comment on whether or not I believe it is unrealistic or not. I don't know enough. I was assuming that wk057 must think it was unrealistic, or he wouldn't be considering upgrading to a version of the firmware with notes that suggest limitations he does not want.
I'm not sure I'd call it unrealistic. It's pretty easy for Tesla to add logic to firmware to "limit feature at location W if maps have XYZ data there" and then push the map updates later (as unprompted, non-firmware "updates").
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