For AWD owners wanting a P3D-

[Cmos2000]

it was available through late October 2018 I believe. Got mine in Sept.

I should have been more clear that I got mine in late December and the P3D- was not available

 

[catware]

Same

Same here. I live in an area with several feet of snow per year, and didn't want 20" rims and lower clearance. I didn't know the M3P- existed until about a month ago. I would have bought it in a heartbeat had I known. I actually looked into selling my AWD and getting an M3P- a few weeks ago -- the cost would have been $8k loss to sell my 2 month old AWD, plus having to apply for a loan again (interest rates had gone up), etc. Now I am thinking I will probably wait until next summer and sell the car when it's 1 year old, and then get an M3P-.

 

[happyzod]

I should have been more clear that I got mine in late December and the P3D- was not available

Didn't know late December was considered fall in Colorado...

 

[cypho]

Didn't know late December was considered fall in Colorado...

I thought that Fall ended on December 20th everywhere in the northern hemisphere.

 

[thebigbobowski]

Stealth P reflash option/upgrade is supposedly coming soon for those who will want it (and who own at least earlier aka <Jan 2019, LR AWDs). It will supposedly be fairly inexpensive... ~2-3K USD.

I did not hear this from a number of SC and Mobile techs, who do not fairly routinely apply it today and were completely unfamiliar with the matter.

I want to believe.

 

[boriszima]

Now we can wait until next year. It’s Likely Tesla can add more power, but will it? And how much? If difference before was 11K, how much lower will they charge?

 

[iS0lidus]

I think this is very likely (almost certain!) given the info we know, what Tesla/Musk has officially stated about the motors being identical, and most importantly the fact that cars delivered as AWD have been upgraded to P software in the field.

At least for cars produced earlier than 2019. The 990 motors throw a wrench in the works.

Not sure if anyone mentioned this. But Elon did reply to someone a couple of weeks ago regarding squeezing out more power via an OTA update with “you never know”. I am sure it’s grasping straws but hey it’s “something” right. He didn’t have to reply to that comment but he did:

Elon Musk on Twitter

 

[Vaillant]

I tweeted at Elon a couple more times

Phase 1: Offer a performance upgrade for LR AWD 3 owners
Phase 2: ...
Phase 3: Profit
@elonmusk @tesla​

and:

There once was a boy who bought a Model 3
He got an AWD, but wanted a P
Since then, you know
He’s been saving his dough
For an OTA power upgrade for a fee

@elonmusk @tesla
​

 

[GateFather]

I tweeted at Elon a couple more times

Phase 1: Offer a performance upgrade for LR AWD 3 owners
Phase 2: ...
Phase 3: Profit
@elonmusk @tesla​

and:

There once was a boy who bought a Model 3
He got an AWD, but wanted a P
Since then, you know
He’s been saving his dough
For an OTA power upgrade for a fee

@elonmusk @tesla
​

Lol love the creativity.

 

[boriszima]

I tweeted at Elon a couple more times

Phase 1: Offer a performance upgrade for LR AWD 3 owners
Phase 2: ...
Phase 3: Profit
@elonmusk @tesla​

and:

There once was a boy who bought a Model 3
He got an AWD, but wanted a P
Since then, you know
He’s been saving his dough
For an OTA power upgrade for a fee

@elonmusk @tesla
​

well done there! Much appreciated it

 

[anon52695]

Anyone with Tesla corporate friends hear any news on this? I want this bad, I just got “stuck” with a P85D for a week, oh boy that was fun. Now I need more power, it’s a vicious cycle.

 

[rlb4]

Anyone with Tesla corporate friends hear any news on this? I want this bad, I just got “stuck” with a P85D for a week, oh boy that was fun. Now I need more power, it’s a vicious cycle.

@zyzz hasn't commented here in a while but he implied that he had inside info and that a software unlock would be available by the end of the year.

 

[MagnusMako]

Looks like that guy got banned, rip. He did say his rep said "wait for Santa"... so maybe end of Q4? Perscitus reflected a similar claim of inside info that it was "coming soon". But soon could be months away or even next year.

 

[anon52695]

Bummer for zyzz. I’m hoping they do something this year, I’m dying for more power. Christmas would be a great present.

 

[pandabear]

I just spoke to my service adviser about this while I was getting the AC smell fixed. He said that it is technically possible to do the AWD -> P upgrade (and that it was done once accidentally in the past), but that there's no way for him to charge me for the upgrade in the system. He said it's definitely something they could do under "Post Delivery Options" should Tesla choose to offer it.

 

[dennistdk]

@zyzz hasn't commented here in a while but he implied that he had inside info and that a software unlock would be available by the end of the year.

Anybody know why he got banned? His posts were usually relevant and "interesting" for us in this thread...

 

[rlb4]

Looks like that guy got banned, rip. He did say his rep said "wait for Santa"... so maybe end of Q4? Perscitus reflected a similar claim of inside info that it was "coming soon". But soon could be months away or even next year.

His last posting was last Wed. and seemed ok.

 

[Perscitus]

Some more insider info related to this thread: Model 3 Motors on the Tesla Parts Catalog

The 970 980 990 motors and their distribution among the Model 3 (model years, trim flavor/configurations, etc.) are indeed a thing. But motor plate details (including blank plates) matter not. From an end-user perspective - think - manufacturer revisions of the same design/assembly, different suppliers, even just different factories from same supplier will result in part number revisions.

Although above vary in terms of internals - any/all dual-motor Model 3s (early production to now) can be set to generate P-level output, with a very similar safety margin! 980s, 990s, 970s, any mix thereof - stealth P reflash is possible (at least technically) on all dual motor Model 3s thus far.

 

[anon52695]

Some more insider info related to this thread: Model 3 Motors on the Tesla Parts Catalog

The 970 980 990 motors and their distribution among the Model 3 (model years, trim flavor/configurations, etc.) are indeed a thing. But motor plate details (including blank plates) matter not. From an end-user perspective - think - manufacturer revisions of the same design/assembly, different suppliers, even just different factories from same supplier will result in part number revisions.

Although above vary in terms of internals - any/all dual-motor Model 3s (early production to now) can be set to generate P-level output, with a very similar safety margin! 980s, 990s, 970s, any mix thereof - stealth P reflash is possible (at least technically) on all dual motor Model 3s thus far.

this is a good thread, someone also suggested the P has some more power in it and put that towards ludicrous. So maybe when they do Ludicrous they open up the AWD for some love.

 

[Urbancowboy]

Some more insider info related to this thread: Model 3 Motors on the Tesla Parts Catalog

The 970 980 990 motors and their distribution among the Model 3 (model years, trim flavor/configurations, etc.) are indeed a thing. But motor plate details (including blank plates) matter not. From an end-user perspective - think - manufacturer revisions of the same design/assembly, different suppliers, even just different factories from same supplier will result in part number revisions.

Although above vary in terms of internals - any/all dual-motor Model 3s (early production to now) can be set to generate P-level output, with a very similar safety margin! 980s, 990s, 970s, any mix thereof - stealth P reflash is possible (at least technically) on all dual motor Model 3s thus far.

Are you the insider? If not, what’s the source of this information?