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It would be nice when you have time to make a post with summary of the overall costs/headaches and general advice for people that decide to take your path.
Congratulations on the successful project after so many months and what I'm sure was not an easy one!
... and it looks like Model 3 is even more locked down then the S/X.
Sorry, I can't get into this yet in a public forum. But it's nowhere near the same architecture as S/X.Can you elaborate on this part? Are you referring to the fact that there isn't an easily accessible live Ethernet cable?
The sad thing is last year Tesla's president of North American Sales/Service, Jon McNeill, directly promised me that Tesla was going to open up service access to the secondary market and stop preventing us from buying parts. So far this has not happened, and it looks like Model 3 is even more locked down then the S/X.
Tesla continues to work hard to lock us out of our own cars. It's only through hundreds of hours of intense study of these systems we are able to get in to perform normal service and get a salvage car back on the road. So far only a few people around the world have the time and expertise to accomplish this. I don't believe Tesla should do it this way. This is being reflected in the cost of insuring Model S/X because almost all are totaled after a relatively minor accident. The salvage value continues to be low because most competent professionals that can fix any other car simply can't do anything on a Tesla. (at least not without the help of someone like me) This means the insurance underwriter doesn't recoup much value from a salvage sale and they are now passing this cost on to the customer. Tesla's response to this is just to try and offer their own branded insurance though a partnership with Liberty Mutual. So far this is not working, and the cost of a policy with them is still higher than comparable ICE cars on the free market.
I love Tesla's Engineering and their cars. I want them to succeed, but I think they have gotten so big they are becoming a mired bureaucracy and are not seeing this big picture. How can they become mass market with $35k cars when it will cost about that much again to insure the car for 10 years?!? My only hope is future "right to repair" legislation. I am generally a believer in small government and less regulation, that the free market will fix this, but in this one case, it may not happen soon enough and it can jeopardize Tesla's mission. If just a few states force Tesla to open up parts/service, then this may cause Tesla to release it for everyone. So far they are not adhering to the spirit of the Massachusetts Right to Repair system, but nobody has yet taken them to task.
I think a separate thread is in order for discussing this though. I just am pretty unhappy with how Tesla is treating it's customers and wanted to vent a little. I'm not sure Elon's dream of privatized service is any better then the traditional dealer franchise system.
Too bad he never followed-up on this, it would have been great for the community
As a follow up to my list above:
1) Performed a battery "drop" from the car with a good friend and we replaced the contactors. Full power restored. He in his 2015 85D and me in this 2013 P85 raced. The P85 at a similar state of charge is a faster car than the 85D (for those that still had doubts).
2) SD card in the MCU was actually fine.
Right now the only outstanding problem that I want to address is WATER that seeps into the rear trunk hatchback. After talking to several people, this is definitively a set of bad seals on the rear taillights (another known issue in these early VIN cars). I'll probably wait till winter to tackle this one, as the process is a bit extensive and we're now hitting the dry season here in San Diego (although this past week certainly could fool anyone).
Hello! Thanks for following up, as I also own a 13’ P85 thats out of warranty. How did you know that the contactors were going bad? Does it give a warning? I have about 65K miles and have a feeling theyll go bad on me soon. How hard was replacing them and where did you get new ones? Sorry for all the questions but i jsut want to have as much information i can as I do not habe tesla support.