valem
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I see you got the cameras upgraded in February... no one has been added to FSD beta in 2022, cameras or not.
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hybridbear
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I too, had this suspicion as my erroneous tripleCam was replaced (at my request), immediately before the Dec 2021 rollout.
Alas, still no FSD.
Recently I examined the sticker on the camera (remove the mirror & then the plastic housing) & confirmed it's the "B" variant (matching my latest invoice). It's quite easy to remove the mirror & housing without disturbing anything permanently.
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valem
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The only ones you can't know for sure are the b-pillar. The others you can easily check because you can record and view.
I made sure to save some clips before the replacement so I could compare, but if you didn't do that, you can do a color check to confirm yellows and blues on the new cameras.
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valem
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For those who believe uncle Billy... he does not have any good news...
"More than likely not coming tomorrow. .... Like super really likely not coming tomorrow. I was finally told that my friend's roommate is being skittish about giving out info now.... But I'll still get little tidbits."
"More than likely not coming tomorrow. .... Like super really likely not coming tomorrow. I was finally told that my friend's roommate is being skittish about giving out info now.... But I'll still get little tidbits."
Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
Cheburashka
Active Member
Yeah I don't know how much I would trust a guy who's source is his wife's boyfriend or something.
FSD ownership feels like an abusive relationship so far.
FSD ownership feels like an abusive relationship so far.
And thanks to months upon months of safety score psych torture, hands-down the WORST videogame I've every played.
tezlaMXUR17&24
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I don’t know how braking for someone who cuts your lane and just makes a hard stop should be penalizing you. SS is really stupid and it’s unfortunate that we are stuck in this purgatory hell
Because you are missing what the Safety Score is measuring: Safety Score Beta
If you are driving in a way/place/time that has people cutting in front of you, requiring you to perform a hard stop, that means that you are more likely to be in a collision than someone that doesn't end up on that situation.
tezlaMXUR17&24
Member
That my friend is the exact reason why we haven't got FSD Beta yet and at the same time FSD won't graduate from Beta, imo.
It's overcompensating to avoid collision by rewarding safety that in real life scenario wouldn't be available. It's like asking for two elbow space in a crowded Tokyo train when you barely can stand face to face. FWIW I'd set AP to do 32mph in 35mph stretch in this case and what SS deems likely as an unsafe is very debatable too.
I agree with the goal &, given the basic metrics it's likely a reasonably tuned statistical threshold (recall Tesla has been collecting these & richer metrics before Safety Score was surfaced to drivers and have been in a position to design the deceleration thresholds accordingly).
Of course there remain exceptions to the inferred safety - particularly: rewarding/encouraging behavior which diverges from other drivers' expectations.
eg. Safety Score rewards;
- Aggressive acceleration, v.late approaching orange/red lights.
- Descending very steep hills at unconventionally low speeds (encouraging surrounding drivers to create hazards).
- Engaging autopilot* on unmarked/narrow/winding surface streets to avoid spurious Forward Collision Warning.
- Engaging autopilot when entering high-speed/short freeway onramps to disable recording of Unsafe Following Distance.
- Disabling autopilot when following traffic at freeway speeds, to accumulate Safe Following Distance "cache".
- The attention demanded of the driver to achieve 1-5, on demand, instead of operating the vehicle in a customary & safe manner.
* I've also driven hundreds of miles on FSD 10.10.2 and its negotiation of unmarked/narrow/winding surface streets is head & shoulders above autopilot.
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OF COURSE! it's all crystal clear to me now - Elon's goal!
It's actually trivial to demonstrate FSD is safer than a human driver who is attempting to maintain a perfect safety score
valem
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Well, he said not to expect it tomorrow... and he was right.
Better than Elon that keeps saying next week and it never happens.
And that, friends, may be the genesis of this entire thread.It's actually trivial to demonstrate FSD is safer than a human driver who is attempting to maintain a perfect safety score
As they say "If you don't know who the patsy is......."
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He’s not allowed to say two weeks anymore so he just says next week twice. Genius.
I may be going in on a conspiracy in my head lol, but I'm convinced my 2022.4.5.5 is the FSD Beta waiting room...
According to TeslaFi, no Model S 75D (like me) has received 2022.4.5.16 since March 14th, a full week ago. The only Model S 75D's receiving 2022.8.2 are ones who had 2022.4.5.3. This means my car seems very unlikely to be going to 8.2 or 4.5.16. It looks like 4.5.16 has stopped for my config since no other S 75D has received it in a week and none are pending.
My Model S has always been pushed to the next update within 1-2 days of it being discovered and rolling out. The fact that my car hasn't been pushed to 4.5.16 is sus.
Since no more S 75D's have been pushed to 4.5.16 in a whole week with none pending, and not a single 4.5.5 has been pushed to 8.2, it looks like my car isn't moving forward at all. Combing this info with the fact that my safety score vanished from my app right before 4.5.15 first rolled out last week, I'm certain my car is stuck on 4.5.5 waiting in a software queue for new testers to be added. Since the 10.11 rollout was cut very quickly, it seems likely they are trying to fix some bugs to either do a 10.11.x or just go right to 10.12 and if that goes well after going out to all the OG beta testers, they will probably then add new testers (which would include me!) Now to wait and see why 10.11 was cut so short and fast...
Am I losing my mind or am I actually onto something here?
According to TeslaFi, no Model S 75D (like me) has received 2022.4.5.16 since March 14th, a full week ago. The only Model S 75D's receiving 2022.8.2 are ones who had 2022.4.5.3. This means my car seems very unlikely to be going to 8.2 or 4.5.16. It looks like 4.5.16 has stopped for my config since no other S 75D has received it in a week and none are pending.
My Model S has always been pushed to the next update within 1-2 days of it being discovered and rolling out. The fact that my car hasn't been pushed to 4.5.16 is sus.
Since no more S 75D's have been pushed to 4.5.16 in a whole week with none pending, and not a single 4.5.5 has been pushed to 8.2, it looks like my car isn't moving forward at all. Combing this info with the fact that my safety score vanished from my app right before 4.5.15 first rolled out last week, I'm certain my car is stuck on 4.5.5 waiting in a software queue for new testers to be added. Since the 10.11 rollout was cut very quickly, it seems likely they are trying to fix some bugs to either do a 10.11.x or just go right to 10.12 and if that goes well after going out to all the OG beta testers, they will probably then add new testers (which would include me!) Now to wait and see why 10.11 was cut so short and fast...
Am I losing my mind or am I actually onto something here?
RGloverii
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I've had my safety score no issues since September 25th. Then it just vanished from the app the day before fsd 10.11 started appearing.
I uninstalled and reinstalled the app, i tried logging out then back in. Nothing in the app. But TeslaFi still shows my safety score for every drive and is current up to date. So TeslaFi is how I've checked my score for the past week.
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