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So I am quite new to the Tesla experience (1 month, 2500km with a 2018 Model S EAP AP2.5), but I can't get my head around how Autosteering selects speed, and how much I can trust or use it.
Is there anywhere a good description of it? The user manual is not very detailed on this topic.
What I...
Today, driving into Tucson from the south my MY LR AWD (2023) in autopilot and car wanted to switch lanes from the right lane to the passing lane about every minute or less during the ride. Except, I didn't want to move from the right lane?!?!? I did not indicate a turn or make any move that...
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I own a '23 MYLR which I've had since Feb, no FSD. My wife just bought a '23 M3P that came with FSD for 3 months which just ended. I've run FSD in a combination of highway, suburban, and rural environments. Two things are very clear to me after three months. First, it's performance ranges...
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fsd tailgating in city streets
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fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
phantom braking
I have been using Tesla Basic AP since 2018.
Updated the car yesterday.
First drive was my usual 40 mile drive I’ve made with AP for 6 years.
Immediately I notice the AP nag is more often and turns red way faster.
I drive 70-80 mph , 90% highway.
After getting way more bags than I’ve ever...
Hi, all --
Full disclosure, I'm short Tesla because I think the stock overvalued. I'm more than willing to discuss, but this isn't the right forum, nor relevant to my questions.
1: I'm really surprised that
https://www.teslafsdtracker.com/
isn't better known within the Tesla community --...
I was driving southbound on 101 with FSD about a week ago. The navigation correctly announced I should get off at the Embarcadero exit, but much to my surprise FSD decided to get off at University Ave exit (one exit too soon). I have never had it do anything like that before. I am...
Very likely that there will be a major update soon. When?
Either:
Thanksgiving weekend (23rd Nov)
CT event (30th Nov)
Christmas (24th Dec)
What will it contain?
Grok (20% likelihood?)
V12 FSD (20% likelihood) ASS included?
Emergency Starlink comms (20% likelihood)
Games
X app?
?
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I've been testing FSD since Jan 2022. The software improved from Jan 2022 to approx Nov 2022. Since then, it's been one disaster after another, often the newer release fixed a problem created by the prior release. The latest is no exception. Here's a summary of the latest disasters...
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Drove about 300 mi round trip yesterday to get to where the eclipse was a full ring. First trip in 2023 Model Y with 2023.32.6 software, basic autopilot only. Some really bad regressions I have observed in this update:
- It missed something like 40% of speed limit signs. And I drive in a place...
First, I am sorry about the clickbait title. I am a proud owner of a new model X (decided to take advantage of FSD transfer option). To give you some background - I've been an FSD beta tester since it was available (after a strenuous couple of weeks and a 99 safety score) for couple of years...
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fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd tailgating in city streets
fsd unnecessary/bad lane changes
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
phantom braking
I’m about 2000 miles into my first significant road trip in my new 2023 Model S with HW4, delivered May 1. I drove from FL to New England, currently in RI. I purchased the car with EAP but subscribed to FSD before the trip so I could use FSD Beta when I wanted to. I’m on build 2023.32.4 (FSD...
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fsd jerky driving
fsd late deceleration
fsd not smooth in stop in go traffic
fsd unnecessary/bad lane changes
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
For several months now, when in bumper-to-bumper traffic, if my lane (usually the HOV lane, to the far left) is moving faster than the traffic in the lane to my right, my car, while on EAP, will suddenly lock onto one of the cars in the lane to the right and slow down as if it's actually in my...
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fsd swerving in large right lanes
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fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
phantom braking
I was coming home yesterday evening and decided to try out FSD with the family in the car since I hadn't used it in a while. There is a car in front of me stopped at the light and a car next to me in the left lane going about the same speed. As we slow down to about 5mph and approach the car in...
Trying to gain more confidence using FSD on a 45mph road, one lane in each direction. My question is, do you feel confident that after the car goes forward it will stop? I would apply the brakes or remove my foot from the accelerator before FSD stops the car. It seems nerve wracking. Just...
I own FSD. My opinion is FSD drives like an erratic teenager first time driver. Sometimes it's so slow it annoys you. Other times it leaves so little distance it scares you. It's jerky and not smooth. It automatically does lane changes on its own which I'd rather leave off and initiate myself...
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fix fsd extreme late deceleration
fsd blocking unmarked right turn lanes
fsd hard and late braking
fsd late deceleration
fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd tailgating in city streets
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
phantom braking
My Model 3 was delivered in mid-August 2018. While I originally just had Enhanced Autopilot (EAP), I quickly paid the extra $2000 to get FSD as rumors swirled about Tesla charging more in the future. What's my opinion after 5 years of testing and playing with Tesla EAP and FSD? TLDR: It's pretty...
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fsd hard and late braking
fsd jerky driving
fsd not smooth in stop in go traffic
fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd tailgating in city streets
fsd wrongly swerving into parking lanes
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
phantom braking
I have got to be honest. Full Self Drive capability in Tesla goes further than any other vehicle designed by man (or woman) but it left me wanting for more.
I bought my Model Y Long Range on Friday 9/1 and took it for a little ride from Houston to Corpus Christi on Sunday 9/3. Here are my first...
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fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
phantom braking
TLDR Summary: The FSD Beta Stack (11.4.4) on the highway is much smoother and more comfortable than the current production Navigate on Autopilot. (2023.26.11). Self driving on local roads is legitimately for beta testing and feedback, and not comfortable at intersections. NHTSA is doing a...
Got 11.4.7 last night & went for a test drive today. Had 11.4.4 before. 11.4.7 failed three times in 2 miles or less. Why bother with updates?
1) First failure was at a construction zone in which traffic was running one-way with flaggers, and my lane was moved to the left lane. The vehicle...
Running FSD 11.4.4. I'm in lane #2 of two lanes turning left at a light. The intersection is not square, more of a 120 degree turn to the right.
FSD stops for the light as expected. The opposing northbound traffic left turn signal turns green. FSD decides to proceed into opposing traffic...
RWD M3 2023 with the latest beta for FSD. This morning I took it for my first trip with FSD and it was accelerating insanely fast out of turns. Also seemed very close to cars on neighborhood streets.
How do I make it drive slower? Chill mode is on.
FSD was a step in the wrong direction for me. Previously, I would use autopilot daily and it would not try to change lanes for no reason. Now I don't use it anymore.
This is what's doing now:
1. We're getting to the end of the highway where we need to turn right. It's a messy area with 4 lanes...
I was driving today on a slight dow hill, 2 lane divided highway, i was on the inner fast lane.. 55mph
A short 3rd lane appears on my left, for a left turn only through the highway divider
Without warning, car enters the left turn lane for no reason then slams on brake as road disappears in...
Just took a trip from Texas to Arizona on I-10 in my 2020 LR M3. From West TX to middle of AZ had about 15 instances of phantom braking. HARD braking - from 80 mph to 25 mph in seconds. Thankfully no traffic behind me or they could have easily hit me from the drastic slowdown. Had previously had...
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fsd blocking unmarked right turn lanes
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fsd tailgating in city streets
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Testing FSD beta 11.4.2 today on a short torture course that caused problems for earlier versions. This drive was done in Chill mode. At 5:49, it barely made the transition into a left turn lane to enter an onramp to I-5, which earlier versions could not do. It had to make a hard braking...
I've been in the FSD Beta program since summer of last year, and while I've seen updates with significant improvements, so far my limited experience with 11.4.2 has shown more improvements than I've seen in any prior release.
(As always, YMMV).
We've all developed a feel for what FSD Beta can...
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fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd tailgating in city streets
fsd unnecessary/bad lane changes
fsd wrongly swerving into parking lanes
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
I purchased my first EV last month - a Model Y Long Range. I've had several vehicles with adaptive cruise control and lane keeping assist. I used the adaptive cruise control often, but the lane keeping assist was a parlor trick at best. In the Hondas and Mazdas I've had with that feature, it...
Did a 4 hour round trip drive yesterday and I have to say that I hate how the FSD beta doesn't have an option to stop Auto lane changes because it constantly wanted to go from the highway cruising lane into the passing lane when no one was in front of me. It must have done it about 20 times...
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For the first couple of years that I owned my M3, I never took it out of standard acceleration. Who could resist? Too much fun. But eventually I started to see the merits of chill mode. It’s better for passengers, better on range, and probably better for the tires, among other things. I now...
Some of our threads have “related thread” links at the top. For those that don’t, here are a few related threads from other forums. Use “report” to suggest additional:
HW4 on Investors
FSD on Investors
AI on Investors
Robotaxi on Investors
Please treat these regional threads as read only if...
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phantom braking
I’ve found that FSD Beta (under 2022.44.30.5) cannot negotiate a particular intersection geometry shown below. The vehicle just stops before the intersection and will not proceed.
Here’s the setup: the vehicle is in blue with the direction of motion shown by a black arrow. The planned path...
Hi guys,
Just wanted to share an experience that I've had today so that others looking at Teslas to use for long distance driving can make an informed decision.
My wife and I drove our 2023 MYLR from Tucson to Las Vegas. It's a ~7 hour drive (8.5 with charging stops, ~400 miles) mostly...
I have been using both AP and NOAP (Navigate on Autopilot) since I picked up my Model S. I Find that there are only two modes it seems to drive in, aggressive driver or giddy teenager driving on highway for the first time.
It says a lot about the developers who are working on this algorithm...
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fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
I have simple needs. Just want plain old Autopilot to take some burden off me in stop and go traffic. Used to be ok. Now - I’m embarrassed to drive with it with others and too frustrated to use it alone. Jerks way too hard when braking and super inconsistent acceleration.
Haven’t read too much...
Here is the compilation of FSD Beta releases, starting with 10.
All this information comes from Teslafi. Employee only dates are ignored.
Release : Release number. Releases that most of the testers got are in bold and I'm calling them "major releases".
Build : Software build number.
Date ...
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All FSD chat welcome here but you might prefer one of these:
Technical FSD chat has an entire section.
Tesla Optimus Sub-Prime Robot
Tesla humanoid robot
Investor Engineering Discussions
Tesla Network / Robotaxi Business Model
Super Bulls Only
V2G in a robotaxi world
Tesla BEV Competition...
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fsd tailgating in city streets
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Today my car started behaving very strangely on Autopilot. I have the 2021 vision only M3P. I've had issues with my autopilot in the past where in stop and go traffic it was accelerate rapidly towards the car infront of md and then brake harshly. But it got better with a update that came out not...
The next big milestone for FSD is 11. It is a significant upgrade and fundamental changes to several parts of the FSD stack including totally new way to train the perception NN.
From AI day and Lex Fridman interview we have a good sense of what might be included.
- Object permanence both...
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fsd wrongly swerving into parking lanes
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Original Title:
FSD’s earliest adopters find themselves again deprioritized and forgotten
Wiki Content:
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Camera Retrofit and FSD Beta rollout tracker:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bzW9brGBnM17IHNkfYzRHdbPMQa7BaFgRpuqn-jM0n0/edit#gid=0
Camera PN Tracker...
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Lex had an interesting point in this video about how Neuralink could leverage the human brain for computation as well as the other way around (19 mins in I think).
The other thought I had; could a neural net learn to use a quantum computer more effectively. ie. a quantum computer as a...
Hi all
Newbie here. I'm considering a model 3, and took one for a test drive today.
Overall, my impressions were really positive. Drivability, comfort, and acceleration were everything I expected and more.
However, there was one thing which bugged me: the cruise control on autopilot was...
Updating this after a long time as V12 is gaining attention.
Previously ....
Background : In the Ark podcast Musk said they are planning to be feature complete by the end of the this year (2019).
Feature complete is a specific software term that means set of features that are planned for a...
autonomy
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