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Are there any videos of the car doing a hairpin bend?
Vaporware - Wikipedia1. No, there were plenty of people, calling FSD vaporware.
When it reaches level 3 or 4 than we can say "full" self driving actually exists. Until then I think we can still call it vaporware.wikipedia said:... became popular among writers in the industry as a way to describe products they felt took too long to be released. InfoWorld magazine editor Stewart Alsop helped popularize it by lampooning Bill Gates with a Golden Vaporware award for the late release of his company's first version of Windows in 1985.
Vaporware - Wikipedia
When it reaches level 3 or 4 than we can say "full" self driving actually exists.
It can be level 3
Vaporware - Wikipedia
When it reaches level 3 or 4 than we can say "full" self driving actually exists. Until then I think we can still call it vaporware.
Wonder how long before there is pothole detection and avoidance.
The video from the guy in Miami showed the car slowing for speed bumps.I think the system needs to handle speed bumps first! In the video I saw the car didn't even slow down for it.
If America didn’t have such a ‘rugged individualism’ psyche, more money would be spent on fixing roadsWonder how long before there is pothole detection and avoidance. Many places in the country will need this before Level 3 is practical. Or maybe it is fine to hit a pothole during traffic jam assist.
I really don't think this is true. The capability Tesla has demonstrated so far was achieved a decade ago. The fact that they are achieving it at much lower cost really isn't evidence that they're close to achieving robotaxi capability. Relative to where they were it's definitely a quantum leap. I think most of the skeptics, like myself, have observed that many companies have quickly gotten to the point where the car can do a good approximation of driving for 100 or 1000 or 10,000 miles only to stall out. The fact that every other company has also made overly optimistic predictions should make you less optimistic about Tesla, not more. The entire history of artificial intelligence is full of people making overly optimistic predictions. Maybe this time will be different.1. No, there were plenty of people, calling FSD vaporware.
2. I have not stated that I believe that the current FSD beta is anywhere near Waymo (geofenced) in reliability at this moment. I agree with you, it's likely near 10 miles or less in disengagement.
3. I don't know what the future holds, Elon may be wrong about reaching 1 million miles per disengagement.
4. If I remember right, you last year referred to Investor day as a mere trick pony show and that Elons claims about FSD were blatant lies made to pump the stock valuation. This was back in the good old days when you and Diplomat used to argue all day long. While FSD beta is a small step, and Elon has been terribly wrong on some of his predictions, I'm still optimistic about where they go from here.
LA commute test from Santa Clarita to pasadena and back...longer videos
Tesla Full Self-Driving Commute Test: Santa Clarita to Pasadena and Back [VIDEOS] - TeslaNorth.com
I really like this guy’s vids. He and his wife are calm and he’s polite and takes over when the car might impede other drivers. It looks like he uses AP pretty similarly to how I do, actually. Impressive stuff from the vids.
I really don't think this is true. The capability Tesla has demonstrated so far was achieved a decade ago.
History of self-driving cars - WikipediaReally? Any sources to demonstrate that, ie real world demos of cars doing what Tesla FSD beta is doing from 2010. Would love to see it.
@diplomat33 are there any videos of Waymo doing long commutes including freeways/highways?
I've seen at least one of the riders report that it appeared that Waymo specifically went out of it's way to avoid freeways/highways. Is that part of the ODD restrictions? (Chandler excluding freeways/highways?)