tommybahamaX
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I believe its officially wide release now. Hoping my 2023.2.12 updates to it, feel like a crackhead checking for it every morning!
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FSD still has to be requested?
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Once you see a bunch of post of new testers being accepted, you'll know. It's not occurring right now, no one is getting updates right now as 2023.7.5 stopped.
It could be a few more weeks or months...no one knows.
tommybahamaX
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If you paid 15K for the FSD when you bought the car does it come loaded, or do you just get into a queue as well?
You get FSD right away, but FSD Beta is an early access program that Tesla let's in new testers periodically. There was a short time period where it was "open", really semi-open as it always depends on your software level. If your software level is higher than FSD Beta, example the current main stream Beta is 2022.45.15 if you have any 2023 software you won't be able to get Beta. The new Beta is 2023.7.5, so anything lower than that like 2023.2.X would be eligible once they began accepting new users, but if you have a higher version like 2023.12.X, you won't be eligible.
You can also be suspended from the program for not paying attention, etc., but there's no guarantee you will just get in or receive Beta.
I bought FSD right after delivery, the day of (as I wanted to pay for it separately). That was 3 months ago. Still have not been enrolled but that's likely explained by the fact the car had a more current software version out of the gate than FSD.
That said, I really wish they'd find a better way to manage this. It's a big ticket item and it seems reasonable to expect something out of it right away.
That said, I really wish they'd find a better way to manage this. It's a big ticket item and it seems reasonable to expect something out of it right away.
Yes, it will but in the meantime, when you've paid that much for something, you kinda expect something out of it. Beta would suffice for me but I don't even have that. And what's frustrating is that I had it on the Tesla I traded in!
You have FSD, prior to 2 years ago there was no Beta option for owners...FSD was what everyone received.
Prior to December, it was required you had to test to get Beta.
Beta is stopped right now due to a recall and who knows when they will allow new testers, but again, it's an early access program. I want to say this so you know, you didn't pay for Beta...you can also lose it if you don't follow the rules.
This was from Tesla:
FSD Beta version 11.3.1 or later includes the remedy that will improve how FSD Beta negotiates certain driving maneuvers during specific conditions. The updated FSD version began rolling out over-the-air (OTA) to affected vehicles beginning March 6, 2023.
Note: The remedy is not yet available for vehicles with NVIDIA® Tegra® and will deploy OTA once the software is available.
Thanks for the clarifications.
I'm on 2023.2.10. Should I get off the Beta queue to get a more current firmware version until they reopen Beta or am I likely to receive a more current non Beta firmware version regardless of being in the queue or not?
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I'd wait to upgrade to anything until there are new testers getting it. The worst thing you could do is go to 2023.12.X and then Tesla doesn't take Beta to that level for several months.
K. Tx. Based on your experience, have people in the queue received non Beta firmware updates?
If you are actually in queue, as in you've paid/subscribed to FSD, you shouldn't.
I've definitely paid for it. By queue I meant the option in the car's UI to be in line to receive the beta. I'm debating getting off of it to enjoy the benefits of the more current firmware updates if it is going to be a while anyway before I get the beta.
The only thing you would get is the customized left scroll wheel and the location information on your S. The 3 would get font size change.
It depends on how important those features are for you.
There is also thew ability to control the passager seat from the rear screen, the car controls showing up on the Home Screen and auto heated steering wheel (though arguably not super needed in the coming months).
WilliamG
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If you’re in the FSD queue I don’t think you’ll get pushed a newer non-FSD software version beyond the latest FSD build. I’d advise against leaving the queue as you’ll only set yourself back further as if you end up on 2023.12.x (latest regular non-FSD software) you won’t be able to move backwards to 2023.7.5 (latest FSD currently). That means you’ll be waiting for the next version, whenever that is. Tesla has been dropping the ball recently with merging these branches. In December of last year it felt like they might be trying to keep these better together but nope, back to massive disparities in build dates. Most FSD owners are on 2022.45.15, including myself.
The last 2 Decembers they merged, it's a Holiday update thing. There was no evidence or indication that would stay.
WilliamG
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No argument. Just annoying is, all. Bottom line: Spend more money with Tesla, get treated worse.
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