Good question, would like to know the answer. My Leaf will just pick up auto steer again a little while after a lane change (so did my BMW).
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Sunshine State
Automotive Enthusiast
The base AP disengagement effort force requirement drops significantly as soon as the blinker is pressed. I find it is extremely easy and smooth to change lanes and then a double click on the drive stalk and it’s right back on AP. I’m a bit impatient and don’t like to wait for the FSD to try to find the room to change lanes on its own in normal busy traffic. On an empty highway the FSD can handle lane changes without any delay but add some traffic and the AP manual lane changes are far better, quickly becoming second nature and less annoying than dealing with what I refer to as FSD’s "nearsighted amateur driver abilities"
azentropy
Member
I'm passing, just like I did when I got my 3. It just doesn't do enough in its current form and even if it did I just don't see using it enough to justify $7K. I'd be more interested in a subscription model where I could subscribe/unsubscribe monthly for the right price.
MXLRplus
Active Member
AFAIK, Tesla is the only car with autosteer that does not automatically re-engage after a signaled lane change.
You are paying 7k now for the cumulative use of features of FSD starting now, those a year from now, those two years out, or five, etc until you sell the car.
The question is not is it worth it today, it is do you believe the FSD of 2022 is worth 7k.
Think of those who got it for 5k.
Reeler
Decade of Pure EV Driving
If they could get FSD working, it would be worth tens of thousands. I personally don't think Tesla can get it working. Auto park, auto wipers, advanced summon, auto high beams are craptacular. Tesla tends to do a poor implementation of a feature with few updates. Auto park has been around for 5 years without any updates on a barely passable implementation.
Uncle Paul
Well-Known Member
For people that want the features, it is a bargain.
For those not wanting those features, it is too expensive.
For those not wanting those features, it is too expensive.
Sorry for reviving this thread. I have been considering FSD daily. I ordered my Model Y a long time ago so I am locked into some cheaper pricing and I ordered FSD. I am just considering if it is truly worth it. The minor changes from autopilot does not seem to be significant until it is fully implemented. I have already completed my loan information, am I able to remove FSD without incurring vehicle price adjustments?
rxlawdude
Active Member
I look at it this way: Reduce the cost of the car by omitting FSD and your annual registration fees and purchase sales tax will be lower.
Buy FSD and put it on a credit card that has perks (e.g., miles or rebate) and get something you would not get if bundled with the car.
The wildcard? Pricing of FSD after 7/1. Elon has promised a price increase on that date.
I just got my VIN today and canceled the FSD option moments ago. Why?
1. Because the purchase price is $7k higher, my insurance goes up $68 / year - a penalty I don't pay if I buy it right after I get the car. (State Farm still covers post purchase upgrades.)
2. While currently out of money, MD will give a $3k excise tax cut, but I lose that with FSD (pushes the car price above the $60k limit)
3. I can buy it with the app right after if I so choose (probably will) without these two financial hits.
For me, delaying FSD is a clear winner.
1. Because the purchase price is $7k higher, my insurance goes up $68 / year - a penalty I don't pay if I buy it right after I get the car. (State Farm still covers post purchase upgrades.)
2. While currently out of money, MD will give a $3k excise tax cut, but I lose that with FSD (pushes the car price above the $60k limit)
3. I can buy it with the app right after if I so choose (probably will) without these two financial hits.
For me, delaying FSD is a clear winner.
@MY-Y how did you go about doing this? Was your loan already secured with tesla and they adjusted the loan to a lower price no problem?
everything @rxlawdude says is exactly my concerns. I can have lower insurance, lower registration and lower sales tax due to the "value" of the car being lower. And whenever I want to buy it I would pay credit.
But the biggest concern is pricing, I believe when I purchased it FSD was worth 6k, so would my purchase price simply drop by 6k?
everything @rxlawdude says is exactly my concerns. I can have lower insurance, lower registration and lower sales tax due to the "value" of the car being lower. And whenever I want to buy it I would pay credit.
But the biggest concern is pricing, I believe when I purchased it FSD was worth 6k, so would my purchase price simply drop by 6k?
Ghanziang
Member
The piece you would lose, is that if a hardware upgrade is necessary for FSD, you do not get the upgrade for free. That only goes to people that have ordered it with the car. (currently) As we all know, everything changes with Tesla.
@Ghanziang That makes sense, but if I cancelled it from my order and purchased FSD after delivery I would then be qualified for free hardware upgrades correct? More or less if you have FSD youll get hardware update for FSD. But it doesn't matter when it was purchased.
I didn't use their finance, so I just clicked the option on my order to clear it.
If it's true that post delivery FSD doesn't give the same HW upgrades in the future, that'll save me $7000.
Ghanziang
Member
A co worker has a model S. It was made quite clear back then if you did not order FSD with the car, you did NOT get the free hardware upgrade. So I think when you buy FSD did matter. Does it still matter? I really wish I knew. I have FSD on my order, and it would be nice to be able to get upgrades if I canceled it and then re-ordered it.
@MY-Y did you get any weird price adjustments since when you ordered or the FSD price simply chopped off?
@Ghanziang that is concerning. I will hunt the forums to see if it makes a difference. Now that I think about it...it should be WITH order right? Logically if rumors start swirling of HW4 coming out then a bunch of people will hop on their phones and purchase FSD upgrade and say "Hey I want the free hardware upgrade I have FSD" even though they just got it a week earlier.
@Ghanziang that is concerning. I will hunt the forums to see if it makes a difference. Now that I think about it...it should be WITH order right? Logically if rumors start swirling of HW4 coming out then a bunch of people will hop on their phones and purchase FSD upgrade and say "Hey I want the free hardware upgrade I have FSD" even though they just got it a week earlier.
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