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FSD v12.x (end to end AI)
- Thread starter Buckminster
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- #fixphantombraking 12.4.x is coming autopilot chill is not chill elon is an ass elon rocks fix fsd extreme late deceleration fsd does not commit to go fsd does not maintain proper speed fsd doesn't read signs properly fsd hard and late braking fsd has decision wobble fsd jerky driving fsd late deceleration fsd sometimes may not detect train crossings fsd stops too early too quickly fsd stops too far behind line fsd stops when there is zero visibility fsd tailgating in city streets fsd very slow at stops fsd will never enable l3 with hw4
fasteddie7
Active Member
I don’t usually make a video until there’s a major version change, but after getting the same 12.3.6 in the 14.9 update and updated maps, there has been a huge change in FSD performance. The parking is definitely faster as I’ve seen a few of us mention, but in addition to making turns it was missing before, it now is waaayyyy more gutsy. It stops at the normal line, but now instead of creeping and stopping again, it just guns it. That’s awesome as long as it actually knows the coast is clear and not just hoping. Also, I was at a light at cars were waiting for oncoming traffic to make a left, the light was yellow for a bit and instead of waiting, it gunned it as it turned red.
I second the gutsiness. It follow a car on an UPL in a tight space, but it was fine.
Therealm80
Member
I don’t understand how the disengagement numbers are accurate because I disengage all the time for the car speeding
GlmnAlyAirCar
Active Member
Don’t think I’ve seen or heard Elon comment on the cabin camera since way back when he was slamming the idea of using it for driver monitoring because it was inaccurate — Tesla’s cabin camera was never intended for driver monitoring, which is why there are restrictions on how and when it entirely replaces the wheel torque. Elon previously said the cabin camera was there to monitor Robotaxi users.
If Tesla positioned the camera correctly and used different/better hardware, the restrictions wouldn’t be required. The fact that we’re here in 2024 and people are clamouring to now have the cabin camera replacing wheel torque is funny tbh after watching this all unfold, can imagine what Elon thinks about it and his previous stance.
How many friends do you have total? How many of those have Teslas and understand everything about them? How many out of those have FSD? Use that to make a ratio with friends total and that’ll give you a rough idea of how many people watch his videos that know he is tricking, or know how it should work, or know nothing at all and are drooling over Elon’s super cool new technology.
My ratio from the above is about 200:1. From all of my friends in real life who own Teslas, I’m the only one who has FSD. The rest don’t care to spend the money on it and most of the time don’t even use the AP (including my SO with Model Y)
2024.14.9 perception is significantly improved. Auto park is much faster - first try though.
Oddly Autopark got faster a few days before the 24.14.9 update. At lest for me and I posted a video of it. Must have been a Delta update since Autopark is not fully baked into FSDS.
Your burger looks very yummy to me. It has thick meat, cheese, and veggies in it.Might as well be for the BIG nothing 12.4.xwe are getting.
Yeah. Eat the burgers while 12.4.2 is driving the car.I'll gladly trade you a bag full of them for some 12.4.xby this weekend.
Seems like the 2024.3.25 to 14.9 movement has come to an end or slowed down drastically. It looks like we have reached a hold state and next move will be interesting to observe
Unfortunately the "next move" is waiting and waiting and waiting (doesn't seem like a move though). Hate to say it but odds are looking more likely that we will not see ourselves driving 12.4.x until July. "could rightfully be call 12.5 then".
Hate to say it but odds are looking more likely that we will not see ourselves driving 12.4.x until July. "could rightfully be call 12.5 then".
I agree. Especially non FSD Tester pool driver like me who subscribed recently. I think our early tester pool will get 12.4.2 or .3 by end of this month and subscribers may see it in July. No biggie. I'm happy to jiggle the steering wheel every now and then. Nag is not a big issue for me. I would rather wait a little more and not get hit with the usual regressions and actually see improvements in various 12.3.6 issues we've all discussed extensively.
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Yeah, 14.9 has been in the negative rollout (in the 1000s) for the past couple days so I think Tesla has stopped putting people on it and instead moved some straight to 20.1 (non-FSD peeps) and then keeping the rest on 3.25 for now.
Maybe they slow down to fix the release servers and resume full force later. Two big downloads for both 2024.20.1 and 2024.14.9 can choke the servers. It took more than 2 hours for 2024.14.9 to download on my car. Earlier downloads only took less than 30 minutes. Also Tesla SW releases don't always progress on a straight line.
Also they may want to move 2024.3.35 straight to 2024.20.1 after moving 2024.14.9 to 2024.20.1. Everything is possible. Elon is irrational now because he just got his compensation package.
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Todd Burch
14-Year Member
It seems quite clear, as many of us have suspected for years, that Tesla can tweak parameters that feed into FSD/autopark/other behavior independent of an official version update. That seems to be what has happened here.
It makes perfect sense and is pretty easy to implement...you're just sending a variable over the network. Easy peasy.
It makes perfect sense and is pretty easy to implement...you're just sending a variable over the network. Easy peasy.
I believe there's only 3 pools:
1) Employees working on FSD
2) Shills/influencers/etc
3) Us and everyone else who paid/subscribed
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