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I like the “(improvements are) very difficult to achieve without upgrading the vehicle inference computer” part of that statement. Sounds highly technical lol.
Presumably this is referring to 12.5.x where 12.4.x "only" increased the training data and training time while the newer one also increased neural network size to take advantage of additional training compute for the potential for it to learn more nuanced differences in expected behaviors.

But also still good news for HW3 as 12.5.x -> 12.6.x can "just" be additional training similar to 12.4.x.
 
Otherwise it doesn't really make sense to say fewer interventions but less smoothness
12.4.x was trained on 12.3.x interventions where drivers needed to "do something." Most of driving is just staying in lane continuing straight at the same speed, but if the neural networks are overfit believing a "just keep driving" situation is actually "do something," this makes it less smooth because it does things unnecessarily such as switching lanes or slowing down.

It's fewer interventions when evaluated based on the training data, but based on real world everyday driving, people probably found the rate of intervention not to be as big of an improvement due to these unnecessary smoothness issues.
 
TeslaFi has one car with 12.4.2 installed as of 11:40 pm on Sunday 6/30.

Prior version was 2024.15.5 (FSD 12.4.1). Now has 2024.15.10 (FSD 12.4.2)

Only 2 other installs pending at this point.

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Be specific man.
On a trip from Palm Bay to Cape Coral instead of turning on Fl70 from I95, it wanted to go 2 miles further, take a two lane road that eventually connected to 70. Would have added miles and time to the trip. Then it saw 30 miles of 70 as 55 not 65, which is the limit. In Okeechobee it wanted to do two unprotected left turns in heavy traffic rather than go one block to a stoplight with two turn lanes. Is that enough?
 
... it wanted to do two unprotected left turns in heavy traffic rather than go one block to a stoplight with two turn lanes. Is that enough?
I am hoping we will see more improvement in the FSD route & lane planning to be more human like. It seems as though it needs to learn common sense.

Edit - common sense is not consistent across humans so I realize the difficulty of the ask but simple cases like above should be tackled sooner than later as its a matter of safety at the end of the day.
 
On a trip from Palm Bay to Cape Coral instead of turning on Fl70 from I95, it wanted to go 2 miles further, take a two lane road that eventually connected to 70. Would have added miles and time to the trip. Then it saw 30 miles of 70 as 55 not 65, which is the limit. In Okeechobee it wanted to do two unprotected left turns in heavy traffic rather than go one block to a stoplight with two turn lanes. Is that enough?
You posted after people downloaded v12.4.2. I hope this is not v12.4.2 behaviors.
 
On a trip from Palm Bay to Cape Coral instead of turning on Fl70 from I95, it wanted to go 2 miles further, take a two lane road that eventually connected to 70. Would have added miles and time to the trip. Then it saw 30 miles of 70 as 55 not 65, which is the limit. In Okeechobee it wanted to do two unprotected left turns in heavy traffic rather than go one block to a stoplight with two turn lanes. Is that enough?
I'll just say that most of that is not FSD problems, that is navigation system issues. (The exception is getting the speed limit wrong, which it should be able to read the signs correctly.)