It's not about which is "better", it's about which is preferred. I personally like the feel of leather and would've preferred it over the vegan interior of my model 3. But as you said, some people just don't care enough to be swayed away from a Tesla. Others might not be as ambivalent, but they'll probably amount to mouse nuts in lost customers anyway.
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It's not about which is "better", it's about which is preferred. I personally like the feel of leather and would've preferred it over the vegan interior of my model 3. But as you said, some people just don't care enough to be swayed away from a Tesla. Others might not be as ambivalent, but they'll probably amount to mouse nuts in lost customers anyway.
Causalien
Prime 8 ball Oracle
I once wore a faux leather jacket. Then one of these vegans berated me for wearing leather. Then it dawned on me that they can't tell the difference. So now I just wear leather jacket and tell everyone it is faux leather.
First, we all agree doing the body shops is a no-brainer. Even if they just start one, fixing cars within the same day will show people what's coming.
Spending should be packed into Q2. So we are more sure to have profit the next 4 quarters. This is very important for Tesla. 4-quarters' profit will be a nightmare for the large shorts.
You know, I never thought of this before. I'm not sure if you're a genius or not but if I ever get a leather jacket this is exactly what I'll do lol
Krugerrand
Meow
Well, horses are better than cars just not in getting from point A to B timewise. But if no road and fences: horse better.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
NopeWell, horses are better than cars just not in getting from point A to B timewise. But if no road and fences: horse better.
About a year before I bought our Volt I test drove a Gen 1 Volt. It was a stripper that had a cheapo non-leather steering wheel. The moment I got in, it was like "WTF is this! Isn't there a leather wheel available?". (All seven of my vehicles have leather steering wheels...) So I fully relate to Elons comment that if to replace leather in a premium vehicle, they need to come up with a material that looks, feels, and wears at least as good.
I think people need to keep in mind that Tesla doesn't have to offer every option that every person might want.
All they have to do is offer sufficient options to sell every car they can make. They may not offer some items on the matter of principle and/or to align more closely with their corporate mission.
There's a market for seats that are hand stitched by Monks from Nepal. And some "carriage maker" can offer that. Tesla doesn't have to.
All they have to do is offer sufficient options to sell every car they can make. They may not offer some items on the matter of principle and/or to align more closely with their corporate mission.
There's a market for seats that are hand stitched by Monks from Nepal. And some "carriage maker" can offer that. Tesla doesn't have to.
8-K is out.
Shareholder vote results:
Antonio Gracias: 88.9% for
James Murdoch: 90.4% for
Kimbal Musk: 94% for.
PWC as independent accountant: passed, 99.2% for
Chair required to be independent: failed, 16.2% for
Proxy access: failed, 25% for
Shareholder vote results:
Antonio Gracias: 88.9% for
James Murdoch: 90.4% for
Kimbal Musk: 94% for.
PWC as independent accountant: passed, 99.2% for
Chair required to be independent: failed, 16.2% for
Proxy access: failed, 25% for
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Can someone tweet these results to Dana and others who created clickbait articles to support these votes?
ValueAnalyst
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I’m surprised by the high level of support for James Murdoch. Does he own shares of TSLA? I would feel better if he owned a significant amount of shares (which he might, I don’t know). Beyond that, it’s uncomfortable having someone from such a pro fossil fuel family on the board. I assume he doesn’t share those views?
The Murdoch family is complicated. James Murdoch wouldn't be on the Tesla board if he was pro fossil-fuels though.
Steer against steers? Might as well charge against a bull. (Wait, that's what those bears have been trying? Oh never mind then.)
As someone said, animals are being raised to meet demand for meat; no reason to hide the hide too. Situation on Mars may be different. Let me know, send me a postcard.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
dc_h
Active Member
I had a recent test drive in a new 100dvwith the vegan interior. The seat was amazingly my, so much better than early 85’s. I don’t see this as an issue.
Steer against steers? Might as well charge against a bull. (Wait, that's what those bears have been trying? Oh never mind then.)
As someone said, animals are being raised to meet demand for meat; no reason to hide the hide too. Situation on Mars may be different. Let me know, send me a postcard.
The other issue is that leather tanneries are historically very toxic and not very environmentally friendly. I think it’s better to find other uses for the cow skin that don’t involve toxic chemicals. Then again I hardly practice what I preach in this regard as I’ve upgraded to leather in every new car I’ve ever bought.
BozieBeMe2
May I have this dance?
All of this ado about leather is symptomatic of what is going on in the news today. Certain groups, under the guise that they know better and they know 'What I Want', are trying to pilot the ship on which I am on. I know too many times that mob rule has swayed the course of history and you can't have but one captain. So, I have decided that I will be just as proactive as they are in the matter that concern me,
If I want Leather, I want Leather. Please don't misunderstand me. I BLEED badly about animal cruelty. I seldom eat meat and I think we will find out that plants can be traumatized./
Any way, this leather debalcule, is just as troubling to ME, as those who pick on those less fortunate or weaker.
In the case of Tesla, I see Fools who rush in to criticize a company who's goals clearly are for the betterment of all, including the cows.
Those of lessor minds, want to shut Tesla down, they think they know better than the very people who are bringing the world a change that we can live with. A change we need.
It's Tesla's vision and I really, really feel that they are more aware of what is needed and how to fix it and I want to be there.
Shheesh, I feel some what better but I also know some people are already lost and they can't understand.
As I use to tell my G/F, when she got into my magic chariot,
Get In, Sit Down, Shut Up, & Buckle Up, You Gonna Like This!!!
I think I prefer real leather too, BUT: We all preferred ICE cars before Tesla made an EV! So, lets just wait it out!
And since this is a stock related thread, isn’t there more interesting stuff going on today?
And since this is a stock related thread, isn’t there more interesting stuff going on today?
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