topoisomerase
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i'm a relatively new (2 months) MS85 owner and FWIW, one of my very favorite (and most used) features is TACC. i absolutely love it for stop and go traffic, among other uses. my $0.02
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Honestly, the major reason (besides cost) that I wouldn't upgrade my early P85 to a new model or even to an MX is due to the current TACC implementation - aka, it's limited to 75mph. I had a loaner last week and this was KILLING me that I couldn't set cruise control higher than 75mph. Going 75mph on the NJ Turnpike is SLOWWWWWW even people in the slow lane were passing me. Its awful.
Perhaps it was because it was a loaner. I've had loaners and was able to set TACC at 90.
Or maybe it was personal . 'Oh, it's that yobig guy. Yeah, lower the limits. Stat!'
In looking over my upcoming build, I was pondering the Autopilot Convenience Features (ACF) package...
Just about the only features in that package that I would desire are the on/off high beams and the TACC Traffic Aware Cruise Control.
I began to wonder, what type of Cruise Control do you get, if any, if you do not order the ACF?
Plain old cruise control is more than good enough for me and I could always add the ACF feature if desired at a future time (it is retrofittable).
Plain old cruise, and for the love of god man, order the AutoPilot.
The hardware is there on all builds autopilot functionality can be added for $3k after delivery according to the Design Studio.
I haven't used cruise control... um... ever, in any car. When I order my second S in a few months, my plan is to get everything *except* the autopilot, the rear seats (have them on my current car and loved them for the two years my kids were the right age), and the cold package. I'll pay the extra $500 in two years if I decide I really want self-parking.
They should refund the dollar amount of the software then and let people reorder at the lower price when software finalized.
I haven't used CC in any of my cars either. I love ACC though.
Any particular reason why? I'm genuinely curious. My internal model for not paying $2500 for it now is that I won't ever want to pay the $3000 later.
I can heartily recommend TACC. I've never used the CC in my other cars because it only works when there are no other cars on the road. With TACC, I use it all of the time... on the highway as well as local roads. In heavy traffic, it will even follow stop and go jams. On a recent trip driving to Seattle (don't ever try to drive into Seattle in the afternoon), I used the TACC during two hours of stop and go traffic on the freeway and it was just so much easier. The car would precisely accelerate, decelerate and even stop to follow the car in front with the set interval. Much easier than manual control. I had much less worry about running into the car in front of me because the TACC worked so well.Fair enough.
I think I probably need to drive TACC a bit to convince myself I want it. I seem to have a visceral and negative feeling about the whole idea.
I don't mean this to be an anti-autopilot post, but it's a matter of a software update/cost later on down the road and I had to make the choice again, I'd opt out of two options above for now. No offense meant for Tesla, but the other features aren't even released yet and we dont know how long it will take for them to iron out the remainder of the bugs. They have admitted that it is still reading lines wrong in the road as recently as last week. But here is a newsflash: it was doing that back in November/December of last year when it first came out. Skid marks, poorly painted lines, wet spots, and snow tracks all threw the lane departure in a tizzy.
I just want to be clear because I just put down a deposit this morning with Autopilot:
So the whole "on private property" the car being able to get out of my garage, meet me at my door, drive me to my... umm... "barn" and then park itself in the garage... that's all BS for now?
I developed an adaptive cruise control for a different car about 6 years ago, so I can appreciate the difficulty and expense, and even if the $2500 is just for that it is pretty good value. I mean, considering they charge some $4500 for wheels you can grab aftermarket for half that or less... there isn't any aftermarket ACC you can get at any price.
But still, I was basing my decision on the videos I saw produced by Tesla that certainly had me believing I could actually go from A to B without touching the wheel or pedal. Perhaps not legally, but I thought it could technically do that. OK maybe I should feel silly if that was naivety, but I need to know what I'm paying for and I'm a little disappointed in my purchase decision if I just got "fooled" by Mr. Musk. I mean those videos weren't exactly posted yesterday and they didn't seem to indicate a far off feature. My bad for not looking into it better though.
So someone be straight... what exactly are you getting right now with that package?
...if those people are going to be able to talk about it?
I just want to be clear because I just put down a deposit this morning with Autopilot:
So the whole "on private property" the car being able to get out of my garage, meet me at my door, drive me to my... umm... "barn" and then park itself in the garage... that's all BS for now?
I developed an adaptive cruise control for a different car about 6 years ago, so I can appreciate the difficulty and expense, and even if the $2500 is just for that it is pretty good value. I mean, considering they charge some $4500 for wheels you can grab aftermarket for half that or less... there isn't any aftermarket ACC you can get at any price.
But still, I was basing my decision on the videos I saw produced by Tesla that certainly had me believing I could actually go from A to B without touching the wheel or pedal. Perhaps not legally, but I thought it could technically do that. OK maybe I should feel silly if that was naivety, but I need to know what I'm paying for and I'm a little disappointed in my purchase decision if I just got "fooled" by Mr. Musk. I mean those videos weren't exactly posted yesterday and they didn't seem to indicate a far off feature. My bad for not looking into it better though.
So someone be straight... what exactly are you getting right now with that package?