Samsung's problems had nothing to do with chemistry, but rather mechanical problems. The first manufacturer had a design that caused bent electrodes. The second manufacturer had bad welds.Samsung continually made battery adjustments, too. And that went well.
Once again, I feel the need to point out that we cannot assume it has to do with a counter on the number of DC fast charges. It could very well be more complicated than that. Maybe it's a ratio. In that case, someone could charge 3000 DC fast charges but in the context of 300,000 AC(-DC) slow charges. None of us know, which is my biggest complaint here. People jump to personally satisfying conclusions in the vacuum of facts.
And to me, the "less than 1%" number just means how many people have this particular style of charging usage. If it's a ratio, if it's a count, if it's a "time spent above X".. who knows. But I think that's where the (less than) 1% number comes from. My guess.
I imagine it is related to high IR and their BMS not being tuned to it. Tesla probably doesn't have many examples of packs in this condition, so it makes sense to me for them to take it back to study it further (and maybe use it to adjust their BMS algorithms).
You are conflating stuff together. I think you are wrong to do that. but regardless, I wrote that post to summarize the thread for someone. This thread is NOT about all of those things, it is about 1 thing. Give it a rest. There are about 5 million posts about those other things, do we really need to re-litigate all of that? If you don't like Tesla, don't buy a car from them.
Don't take it personally. My point wasn't to relitigate any of those things there's a common thread in those topics that you may miss if your too far in the weeds. When I bought my car Tesla was a completely different company. They were customer centric and you could trust what they said. My point is they need to get better quickly.
Not taking personally. I think each thing on your list is different. You and others are conflating. For example Josh brown. Exactly how do you figure Tesla handled that wrong? Regardless, they are the same company they were when they shipped me an A pack in 2012, realized how to make it better, and superseded it on others shipped the same week. Nothing has changed. I hated that, but saw it in perspective of how much they just have to do on the fly in order to deliver the innovation and incorporate what they learn along the way. For legal reasons they cannot be as forthcoming as we want them to be (and I imagine theyd like to be). They can't buy a new battery for everyone unhappy about ~5 minutes. So it comes down to this... you can either handle the innovation ride or you can't. If you can't, don't buy the car. Because that's the ride we are on.
Wait, that's sarcasm?Sorry, I didn't use my friendly sarcasm emoji
Sound like these types of warranty claims are exactly what tesla is trying to prevent. What will be more interesting is if you see lots of slower supercharging in the future
I'm not going to rehash Josh Brown or the "5 million posts" as you phrased it. They're there for all to see. Obviously there wouldn't be so many if all is well. I bought the car, (which I love more than any car I've ever owned) put down a deposit on a M3 and bought stock several years ago. I'll probably cancel the M3 because I am losing confidence in both Elon and Tesla due to all those things mentioned. I can handle the innovation but in case you haven't noticed the newer people are getting more and more demanding and less and less tolerant than we are and I doubt Tesla, in its' current state, can support 500k new demanding angry owners per year.
I'm actually okay with slower supercharging as it gives me more time before having to rush down to the parking garage to move my car, even if the trade-off is longer waits during peak charging times.
