Needsdecaf
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Sure, but efficient long distance travel belongs to Teslas using the Supercharger network. Proven reliable.
And good luck finding a third party DCFC that works and delivers anywhere near the max.
A good read from a long time Tesla owner and very knowledgeable EV driver.
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Drove 223 miles one way this week in 2020 Taycan Turbo - Santa Cruz to Willows, CA + a short lunch detour next to free way (In/Out FTW)
Left Le Selva Beach, ca home 100% SOC
Arrived Willow, Ca 16% SOC
Had a miraculous EA experience @ Willows Wall Mart 350 kW station
charging America app - free charging session
plug in @ 16% SOC - charge rate jumps to 249 kW
go inside for some light shopping
come out 23 minutes later 84% SOC
my Teslas have never ever on any day charged that fast - in my 8 years of supercharging experience (2013 Model S P85 to today w/2017 Model X P100D)
drive was done in range mode on the Taycan
trip was done via: Hwy 1 North, 17 north, 880 North, 680 North, 80 East, 505 North, I-5 North - speed limits or +5 mph over the entire trip - 3 to 7 “burst mode” let’s get around this slow car - touching speeds of 100 mph+ (I love me a good EV) - back to normal speeds.
temperatures were mild 60’s/low 70’s - traffic was flowing to slight slight slight congestion
ACC + LKA most of the way
AC set to 68F
221 miles / 84% SOC used = 265 miles estimated SOC 0% range - this is not the first time 260-270 miles range on my Taycan is the number I’ve achieved during a trip
I don’t remember the wh/mile number, but I did check it- and it was better than 333 wh/mile - I remember this because 333 wh/mile is exactly 3 miles per kWh efficiency - I noted from onboard computer I was doing better than 333 wh/mile, after that I didn’t care - it was not below 300 wh/mile, and it better than 333 wh/mile…
the Taycan Turbo that I have 9000 miles on is a SOLID 250 mile per full charge EV - 270-290 if you really really baby it - 210 miles if you drive it like you stole it.
the EPA number is just wrong - like the EPA number for Tesla is just wrong, but in a different way.
Taycan return trip was identical - left Thurderhill raceway with 100% SOC (thank you NEMA 14-50 RV plugs) - drove 243 miles (due to detour in Fremont) - arrive home at 11% SOC - 243 / 89% SOC = 273 miles estimated 0% SOC range.
if you’re not getting at least 240 miles range in a Taycan you’re doing it wrong - or simply not trying.
now about Tesla and EPA ratings…
I’ve owned 5 Teslas (never more than 2 at once), Model S P85, Model S P85D, Model X P90D, Model X P100D, Model 3 Performance - you never get the EPA Range - drove once from Button willow raceway to home in San jose - left BW 100% SOC - distance to San Jose home 190 miles or less - EPA range rating for my ‘18 Model 3 Performance 248 miles - arrived in San Jose @ 3% SOC - this was after some very very careful driving in mild conditions - at or below speed limits
EPA range says 248 miles
Elon’s onboard trip computer estimated 6% SOC at destination - arrived with 3% SOC
190 miles / 97% SOC = 195 miles total range
EVEN Tesla’s OWN navigation software “KNOWS” you will not achieve EPA numbers - I know this because I’ve always found the Tesla nav software battery SOC % estimate to be useful and accurate, but it has never once ever in it’s entire life matched the EPA rating when estimating a segment for navigation.