Just had a friend, who feels the auto park feature is important, request to delay delivery until the feature is available. They canceled his order and kept his deposit. I consoled him by letting him know the feature doesn’t work on either of my Teslas which have USS. Auto park and summon have never worked well enough to actually use, unless you have a lot of spare time to wait while the car takes forever to do a terrible job. When I park in my garage, the display shows a garbage can on top of my hood, when it is more than a foot away - so why would I trust it to avoid hitting nearby objects? The only thing that Tesla has proven over the years is that they make big promises and fail to deliver. No one will ever have such a great farting game machine, but there will be plenty of other EV’s to choose from in the near future.
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Just received my new car without ultrasonic sensors
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Transparency is telling people, no one ever told me anything. They only said have you filled out your paperwork, to me that meant taking possession of the car, not that I was signing something that said I had less features than before. The car I test drove was a 22. And now they have slashed prices so that it will be difficult for me to resell the vehicle.
So your excuse is they failed to hold your hand and Read it to you? Lol. Again, do you often blindly sign financial papers for high value transaction? Strongly suggest Not buying a house!
The only way to "draw a line" as consumers is not to buy. Only buy a vehicle when it has the features you want at the time of delivery. Anything else is a gamble.
Maybe only buy from a company that provides customer service. Tesla puts that money in its pocket. Maybe they will wake up now that they don’t have the demand that allows such poor service.
Is that really practical? Performing a full inspection of the car before acceptance?
So, every customer must receive the full spec of the car (and I mean everything, not just USS because god knows what else has changed), hire a specialized shop to go line by line, analyze what a particular change does, explain it to a lame person, who has to make a decision?
Another option is for Tesla to capture the specs of the car you test drive (assuming that you really tested what you test drove - have you tried parallel parking in inclement conditions?) and give you a diff that you (again) analyze with an expert.
The more acceptable option is for Tesla to highlight the important changes, their impact and draw your attention to it in a way that a lame person would understand.
The time of Tesla being bought by engineers and enthusiasts (i.e. early adopters), who scrutinize and understand details, is long gone. Tesla must either adapt to that wider customer base (it seems they like it) or shrink back to a niche manufacturer.
What are you even talking about right now? I simply said I wouldn't buy a car without the features I want working at the time I take delivery. So if parking assistance were important to me I would not buy a no USS car on the hope that their Vision solution will be worth a crap and be implemented soon.
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That's short sighted. Why even mention Tesla at all? That's what they do evolve over very short periods. Yanking USS for Vision, dumping radar for Vision, eventually moving that all to AI. Yet Tesla did all that to prep for the move to Neural Nets and its happening right now. You would be the loser by missing all that just cuz you are stuck on USS. These threads are knee jerk reactions w/o long term thinking. When the Y first came out it didn't have the single piece casting in the rear, ya know. That came towards the end of 2020. The Ryzen MCU late 2021. This is what progress looks like on a Tesla and it is not gonna change. This is what they are and what they do.
USS sucks anyways, it's a dumb sensor, can't tell the difference between some very common objects, thus ppl still run into *sugar*.
I'm not stuck on USS. If I were then I would not buy until the replacement was in place. Pretty simple.
Yes, “eventually”. Given their track record of promising and not delivering, and not hitting milestones, god knows when that will happen, if ever. Throwing sophisticated terms like Neural Networks, Tesla Vision, Persistency, etc. mean nothing if they cannot deliver. And the sad truth is that, despite all this AI talk, the current $60k+ Tesla MY/M3 perform worse than $30k Honda in such mundane task like parking, and no one knows if/when that will be fixed.
I think that something will eventually happen to replace it. In terms of when and what, that's true, nobody knows unless you are working on it for Tesla. Even then, they might scrap whatever it is that's planned for something else.
I mean, that's the gotcha with Tesla as a brand. They move fast. Make changes abruptly. It can be seen as good or bad but this is how the brand behaves with pretty much everything. We also tend to critic other brands that tend to move at a snail's pace but are consistent (Toyota Lexus). The good news is that there are options. Just right now, we as consume can't have a good middle ground just yet.
Dude I’d be pissed if those were taken off but luckily my Y had them on delivery, no idea about functionality of the USS in future though.
I mean my shitbox ICE has parking sensors front and back which help tremendously when I park in my garage which is tight. Without basic functionality like this, something as trivial as parking my Y would have becomes a stress which I could do without hence why OP probably feels the same.
I really hope those with USS retain the functionality and it doesn’t just become a redundant artefact on the car.
Doesn't the backup camera work? Never had a beep in parking in tight spaces on my GTI, also never hit anything.
All this reliance on "beeps" to park is... disturbing.
All this reliance on "beeps" to park is... disturbing.
there are no more beeps at all. Just have to be careful when backing out. I have been backing in spots more often than I did before.
Even though there is a backup camera, when it is dark outside and possibly raining as well (which is often does on the west coast of Norway) then it is very hard to see clearly. The poor manual visibility out the back and corner back sides then makes everything really hard without USS.
This is absolute rubbish.m and you do sound harsh and offensive.
There’s no way to square this other than it’s an absolute piss take. How you’re even defending it is nuts.
I agree. Yesterday it was raining at night and it was hard to see backing out plus there are no USS to hear a beep. Its dangerous backing out at night in the rain with no sensors. I am scared about the winter and during a storm. Maybe I just wont drive but that is not feasible!
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