Later this year, Tesla will begin production of Supercharger equip. that will enable non-Tesla EV drivers in North America to use Tesla Superchargers

[Mockingbird]

Source:

FACT SHEET: Biden-Harris Administration Catalyzes more than $700 Million in Private Sector Commitments to Make EV Charging More Affordable and Accessible | The White House

Record-Breaking Private U.S. Investments to Help Build 250,000 Chargers Per Year, Create More Than 2,000 JobsToday, the Biden-Harris Administration is highlighting how President Biden’s leadership on electric vehicles is catalyzing more than $700 million in investments from the private sector...

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[srs5694]

The relevant quote from that site:

Later this year, Tesla will begin production of new Supercharger equipment that will enable non-Tesla EV drivers in North America to use Tesla Superchargers.

Inside EVs has a story on this, but it's basically just reporting that one sentence, explaining the context that's already been discussed to death on this forum, and drawing the (possibly inaccurate) conclusion that CCS-equipped Superchargers will begin to appear by the end of the year. (It might not be that soon because it takes time to install equipment after it's produced or because the time frame in the White House fact sheet might be based on an "Elon time" estimate provided by Tesla to the government.) Still, this is the first time I've seen anything resembling an explicit time estimate for when these might start to roll out in the US, so that's progress of sorts.

 

[Watts_Up]

Tesla Superchargers in Europe already have two plugs (one for Model S/X, and one for Model 3/Y) so others EV can use them.

It is interesting to notice by opposition that Rivian will instal new CCS chargers but they will be accessible only to Rivian owners.
However, I believe this will certainly not legal in Europe.

 

[5150]

I've not read the original thread on this, and was unaware until today this is the plan going forward. Besides the short term financial benefit from the government I would think this would hurt Tesla in the long term. One of the (many) reasons I got my M3 was the Tesla network, and the lack of for all the competitors. This would even that playing field. During travel would be potential wait times at stations, adding drive time and frustration. The few trips I've done I've had no issues. But, a station near me currently has lines half the time I drive by.

What am I not seeing that makes this a good thing?

 

[jwharnish]

I've not read the original thread on this, and was unaware until today this is the plan going forward. Besides the short term financial benefit from the government I would think this would hurt Tesla in the long term. One of the (many) reasons I got my M3 was the Tesla network, and the lack of for all the competitors. This would even that playing field. During travel would be potential wait times at stations, adding drive time and frustration. The few trips I've done I've had no issues. But, a station near me currently has lines half the time I drive by.

What am I not seeing that makes this a good thing?

I just returned from a 6k cross country trip. I ran into 2 stops where I had to wait about 10-15 minutes for a charger to be available. Then the charge rate was slow due to all chargers being used.
Opening the SC up to non Tesla's may become a problem for those that travel with the cars.

 

[RTPEV]

I've not read the original thread on this, and was unaware until today this is the plan going forward. Besides the short term financial benefit from the government I would think this would hurt Tesla in the long term. One of the (many) reasons I got my M3 was the Tesla network, and the lack of for all the competitors. This would even that playing field. During travel would be potential wait times at stations, adding drive time and frustration. The few trips I've done I've had no issues. But, a station near me currently has lines half the time I drive by.

What am I not seeing that makes this a good thing?

Read the original thread(s)...

Sorry, I know that may sound like a homework assignment, but we've been through the pros and cons ad infinitum. There is really no reason to start discussing here again.

Here are some threads for you to read:

Super Chargers about to get really busy in the near future

Here is the latest news on letting CCS cars charge at SC stations. Elon Musk Confirms CCS1 Plugs Coming To US Superchargers Then again an Elon promise may take several years to implement. 😏 Once this is open, expect to finally see the release of the CCS1 Tesla adapter in North America.

teslamotorsclub.com

Tesla making HUGE mistake with Superchargers

So, it appears that Tesla is slowly moving to open their Supercharger network to all brands of EV's worldwide. On the surface, this is a logical way for Musk to enrich himself further on the EV boom, by charging other EV owners for both adaptors, and supercharger time. I believe, however...

teslamotorsclub.com

Superchargers open to all other EVs later this year (2021)

This is an epically bad decision. Tesla will regret this. This decision is ONLY a negative for all current Tesla owners AND future Tesla owners. SC network is already unable to keep up with the Y/3's coming onto the road. The SC build out has been way slower than planned. So now Tesla owners...

teslamotorsclub.com

I am obviously missing something...Tesla allowing non-Tesla's to use Superchargers????

The existence of the worldwide Superchanger network has been a huge differentiator for Tesla. Allowing other non-Tesla vehicles to use the Superchargers seems incorrect to me for several reasons: 1) Many Supercharger stations are already crowded during the day. Adding non-Tesla vehicles to...

teslamotorsclub.com

CCS Adapter for North America

Given that the Model 3 now supports the CHAdeMO adapter, is the idea of a CCS adapter dead? I would love to get a CCS adapter that was smaller, cheaper and supports 150kW for my 3, spending $600CAD on a CHAdeMO that is huge and only supports 50kW seems to be a waste. Are Tesla working on a CCS...

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[KJD]

The relevant quote from that site:

Inside EVs has a story on this, but it's basically just reporting that one sentence, explaining the context that's already been discussed to death on this forum, and drawing the (possibly inaccurate) conclusion that CCS-equipped Superchargers will begin to appear by the end of the year. (It might not be that soon because it takes time to install equipment after it's produced or because the time frame in the White House fact sheet might be based on an "Elon time" estimate provided by Tesla to the government.) Still, this is the first time I've seen anything resembling an explicit time estimate for when these might start to roll out in the US, so that's progress of sorts.

OMG you had me worried for a minute there.

In other words I will believe it when I see it.

 

[Mockingbird]

I've not read the original thread on this, and was unaware until today this is the plan going forward. Besides the short term financial benefit from the government I would think this would hurt Tesla in the long term. One of the (many) reasons I got my M3 was the Tesla network, and the lack of for all the competitors. This would even that playing field. During travel would be potential wait times at stations, adding drive time and frustration. The few trips I've done I've had no issues. But, a station near me currently has lines half the time I drive by.

What am I not seeing that makes this a good thing?

If Tesla doesn't take money, someone else would.

 

[ucmndd]

Good. Walled garden charging is an obstacle to EV adoption that should be overcome as soon as possible.

 

[5150]

Read the original thread(s)...

Sorry, I know that may sound like a homework assignment, but we've been through the pros and cons ad infinitum. There is really no reason to start discussing here again.

Here are some threads for you to read:

Super Chargers about to get really busy in the near future

Here is the latest news on letting CCS cars charge at SC stations. Elon Musk Confirms CCS1 Plugs Coming To US Superchargers Then again an Elon promise may take several years to implement. 😏 Once this is open, expect to finally see the release of the CCS1 Tesla adapter in North America.

teslamotorsclub.com

Tesla making HUGE mistake with Superchargers

So, it appears that Tesla is slowly moving to open their Supercharger network to all brands of EV's worldwide. On the surface, this is a logical way for Musk to enrich himself further on the EV boom, by charging other EV owners for both adaptors, and supercharger time. I believe, however...

teslamotorsclub.com

Superchargers open to all other EVs later this year (2021)

This is an epically bad decision. Tesla will regret this. This decision is ONLY a negative for all current Tesla owners AND future Tesla owners. SC network is already unable to keep up with the Y/3's coming onto the road. The SC build out has been way slower than planned. So now Tesla owners...

teslamotorsclub.com

I am obviously missing something...Tesla allowing non-Tesla's to use Superchargers????

The existence of the worldwide Superchanger network has been a huge differentiator for Tesla. Allowing other non-Tesla vehicles to use the Superchargers seems incorrect to me for several reasons: 1) Many Supercharger stations are already crowded during the day. Adding non-Tesla vehicles to...

teslamotorsclub.com

CCS Adapter for North America

Given that the Model 3 now supports the CHAdeMO adapter, is the idea of a CCS adapter dead? I would love to get a CCS adapter that was smaller, cheaper and supports 150kW for my 3, spending $600CAD on a CHAdeMO that is huge and only supports 50kW seems to be a waste. Are Tesla working on a CCS...

teslamotorsclub.com

LOL. Yep, looks like its been discussed... a bit. Thanks for the links.