Legit video of M3 crash?

[Sophias_dad]

I did the math on this 12 hours ago or so, and found that the car traveled around 240 feet from the pedestrian to the truck. A model 3 going 110kph(68mph) should be able to emergency-brake to a stop somewhere around 175 feet from the point of initial brake application(presuming 60-0 is 133, scaled up to 68 assuming the friction is the same.

There should be no question that the driver was not paying attention, the car emergency-braked for the frantic pedestrian but stopped braking after he was passed, and it took a second or so for the driver to look up and do further braking.

Interestingly, I found Tesla on autopilot crashes into overturned truck, and the first video shows a BUNCH of other cars behind the 3 just barely avoiding crashing into it, like they are all looking 200 feet down the road instead of 400 feet down the road, in broad daylight, where there's a truck blocking two lanes.

 

[S4WRXTTCS]

Pretty straight forward event that was caused by driver inattention plus a Sensor Suite combination that can't detect stopped generalized "stuff".

I think most followers of Tesla's AP system are aware that the radar can't see stopped objects. Wired has a very good article on why this is.

What I think is less commonly known is the vision system can only detect what it's been trained on. To my knowledge its never been trained on generalized "crap that's in my way" so it's basically blind to it. Sure sometimes it's able to detect "stuff" where it then assigns whatever classification label it does know about to the "stuff". Like in my garage it picks up my lawn mower as a garbage can.

This lack of ability is why a small subset of Tesla owners like myself strongly believe FSD will never work without at least frontal LIDAR. This would not have happened with frontal LIDAR.

 

[AltLogic]

ABS is on aircrafts as well. and the initial smoke comes off every time a plane lands also.

Not if you land hard enough

 

[ACA Man]

I think it’s you.

Ditto.

 

[ACA Man]

considering the source of the country it came from....

What country is that?

 

[lUtriaNt]

Is it me, or does the front of the MOdel 3 look wrecked before the hit?

didnt read the entire thread but i think they blurred/pixelated the license plate.

 

[BM3B]

How do you not see a car in front of you sitting on it's side until the last minute?

Inattentive driver due to autopilot

 

[SammichLover]

Inattentive driver

Don't make excuses for them, please.

 

[iamnid]

Inattentive driver due to autopilot

I doubt autopilot would have missed the person and the stopped car.

 

[jkdman123]

Yeah, maybe, but confirmed, it's not the brakes locking up in this case: Watch a Tesla Model 3 drive into a flipped truck on a Taiwan highway

Wrong. The smoke you see is from him applying the brakes.

 

[vjason]

I doubt autopilot would have missed the person and the stopped car.

The car does sometimes have issues discerning objects against a white background. Usually when the object is white, but I also get it with some bridges on cloudy days.

 

[CertLive]

When they sell you a unicorn and find out after you get it home it is just a mule with a waffle cone glued to its forehead.

 

[CertLive]

In all seriousness though that is a rather large object not to avoid??? Is it because it cant identify it as the rear end of a car? You see this is where the publicity and reality can shape the way people think what the car can do and in reality its lucky no one was hurt. But I am a little surprised left alone the car had no clue about a large obstructing object rapidly approaching. Of course at the end of the day you can totally blame the driver but yes stand surprised it couldn't see that. Also it was not stopping for that pedestrian as well it seems.

 

[2101Guy]

What country is that?

Republic of China.

 

[2101Guy]

Assuming the car was on autopilot, too bad the white truck wasnt a dark shadow on the road...

 

[ACA Man]

Republic of China.

I thought it’s Taiwan?

 

[camalaio]

Regarding people thinking the front of the car is messed up so maybe that's why it crashed...

1. TACC/AP will not work with a wonky radar.
2. We know Teslas will sometimes crash into stationary objects with perfectly functioning radars without slowing down

 

[Knightshade]

I thought it’s Taiwan?

Taiwan is a province of China.

Currently governed by the Republic of China, though claimed as owned by the Peoples Republic of China.

One thing they both agree on is that it's owned by China, they just disagree on WHICH China.

 

[user212_nr]

I thought it’s Taiwan?

Taiwan considers itself to be China, and so does China. We call them Taiwan so as not to confuse them with mainland China.

Taiwan is officially the "Republic of China"
China is officially the "People's Republic of China"