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Mercedes video released today re new EV
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My prediction is that Mercedes will be a threat to Tesla just as the first commercial fusion power stations come on line.
That's pretty funny. To compare the fronts they used a photo of a 2012 Model X prototype. The fake grill look never made it to production.
Is the rest of the review as sloppy?
Do you take production numbers into account? Even in the unlikely event half of the Mercedes sales are "stolen" from Tesla, that would only work out to less than 15,000 units. It would only take 3% of Tesla's sales to be Mercedes conquests to surpass that.
I expect that Mercedes will ramp up production pretty quickly to meet demand. It has plants all over the world, and if people want electric cars (and we do), it will build and sell them.
About three weeks ago, I was absolutely convinced that I was going to get a Model 3. I had quotes from Tesla, and even had a quote from an electrician to install a charging station. But I couldn't pull the trigger. Why? Tesla's service centers are not good. If Tesla had the service centers like Mercedes, I would be driving a Tesla today. Instead, I bought an ICE Mercedes.
Right now, Tesla has little competition in the EV car market. I think that if Tesla straightens out its service centers, it will thrive. If it doesn't, it will get overtaken by other car companies.
Kappelan
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Yeah, yeah I am hearing it for about 5 years or more.
What is the range for that Mercedes? Some source saying it will be about 200 miles = 320 km. Similar to E-tron.
PJFW8
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I have owned 2 Mercedes in the recent past. Service was great but shockingly expensive. Neither car was particularly reliable. Visits to service were frequent. Still beautiful cars! My 15 month old Model 3 has been to service only once to fix a seat switch that I broke. Tesla fixed it for free (the charge would have been $110) and would have sent mobile service. I wanted to try the Charlotte service center. Great experience! No service beats great service!
I wish that were true, but having worked at a dealer, not that many techs are gonna be familiar with it. It'll take time for techs to catch up. Usually, only tech with certification on the car can work on it.
Kappelan
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When I was shopping for an EV and plugin in most cases (except Tesla) I knew much more about the vehicle than Sales Reps. I really hope their techs more knowledgeable about the company product.
Sales barely know didly squat. Our department (service) usually did the explaining on how things worked in their new car and we had to deal with the "promises" that sales gave. Techs are more trustworthy than sales unless that salesperson came from service first.
Sales personnel turnover rate was very high.
Not real impressed with the Mercedes, noting recent history especially with the quality and reliability. Recalls have been overwhelming for may owners. Like the Mercedes non braille seat adjustments on doors and dash is okay. Dislike the lack of am radio in Teslas but overall Tesla is ahead. Yes, Tesla has quirks but the supercharger systems is superior over other charging systems at this date in time.
Service for both Mercedes and Porsche are expensive and dealers live off the service department income now days. Same for Audis and Jaguars. The F Jaguar is not even in the same class as an X but with a M3 maybe.
For now I will continue to buy American made Teslas and keep the income in the US. I don't care how any foreign car plants are here the bulk of the money goes back to the manufacturer overseas.
Service for both Mercedes and Porsche are expensive and dealers live off the service department income now days. Same for Audis and Jaguars. The F Jaguar is not even in the same class as an X but with a M3 maybe.
For now I will continue to buy American made Teslas and keep the income in the US. I don't care how any foreign car plants are here the bulk of the money goes back to the manufacturer overseas.
I have driven 8 Mercedes over 22 years. I have never had one break down. I have had one recall, which was fixed in a day. I have never had a repair which was not covered under warranty.
The point about driving an American car is a good one. Let's hope Tesla gets its act together on the service end.
Kappelan
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I hope so. But I remember how I was receiving calls from Chevy service department about oil change due as they would do for a regular vehicle, so every time I had to explain that we don't have to do oil change that often in our Volt
You are correct about Mercedes being expensive to repair. That's why I only lease them. I never have a car that is out of warranty.
My guess is that service location is dependent on location. Here in West Los Angeles, Teslas are everywhere -- particulalrly Model 3s. There is no infrastructure to service them. That's a big problem.
Kappelan
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Xenoilphobe
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I would not buy one unless I was going to drive low miles. However, I would never buy any car as long as I am driving over 15,000 miles a year.
That was another problem for me when considering the Model 3: Tesla's lease deals are terrible. Tesla doesn't even offer a residual on Model 3s.
rwjr44
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That Mercedes is a beautiful car with all of the touches one would want in a luxury car. But I don't like SUVs, its range isn't up to par and the lack of a coherent charging network are problematic for me. I know that there are a good number of charging stations being built but many of those don't seem to be convenient for road trips and only Porsche has seemed to make using them as convenient (at least that is what they say) to use (billing, credit card use, etc) as Tesla.
The next wave of EV buyers won't have the mind set of early adopters.
The next wave of EV buyers won't have the mind set of early adopters.
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