Please post up any rumors or thoughts. I'd love a triple motor Plaid version without the additional size and weight of the S. I think the 3 is their best platform for a performance vehicle as it's Tesla's current most nimble/lightweight/low CoG vehicle.
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Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation [Car announced 04.23.2024]
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I reckon it will use two motors - but they will be more powerful and it will be called a Plaid.
Suspension will be more sport focused and better brakes - for less fade (after spirited driving)
I would like to see the much talked about cold rocket thrusters from the new Roadster make their way onto a Model 3 Plaid!
Suspension will be more sport focused and better brakes - for less fade (after spirited driving)
I would like to see the much talked about cold rocket thrusters from the new Roadster make their way onto a Model 3 Plaid!
Really hoping for this. I have a 2018 Model 3 Performance and have thought of a Plaid S, but I'd really prefer something smaller and more nimble.
I reckon it will have 4 wheels, and the rest will be either worse or better than now.
Actual info from EU launch of Highland configurator here:
Revamped Tesla Model 3 'Highland' Officially Unveiled in Europe and Available to Order
The 2024 Tesla Model 3 has been revealed through updates to the company's European sites, allowing some customers to order the new car for October-November. Here's what we know!
tflcar.com
The good:
- ventilated front seats
- rear passengers 8-inch touchscreen, with rear climate controls
- trunk space, which is up ever so slightly to 21 cubic feet.
The bad:
- no more turn signal stalk (must stumble through left-side steering wheel controls) <- this is full-on moronic!
- no more gear selector stalk (must stumble through touchscreen) <- this will be inconvenient
- softer suspension
- marginally more expensive
- no hardware 4, no new battery pack
The meah:
- marginal exterior styling changes
- marginal aerodynamics / range (maybe?) improvements
- upgraded audio system from 14 to 17 speakers (would have to listen to see if there is any actual difference)
- customizable interior ambient lighting
Destiny1701
22’ M3LR ‘DrkNite’/ 22’ MYP BliueRocket
I’m thinking a ‘ludicrous mode’ option…not plaid. They still want to differentiate between S and 3. Ie. 2.7-2.8 sec 0-60 spec. Maybe 2.5 real world.
This would be the absolute best Tesla on the road imo. Handling and power wrapped into a neat package.
This would sway me to upgrade my 22’ LR boost.!
This would be the absolute best Tesla on the road imo. Handling and power wrapped into a neat package.
This would sway me to upgrade my 22’ LR boost.!
BitJam
Active Member
The Electric Viking said there is a rumor the new M3 Performance has been delayed because they are still working on improving the 0 to 60 time.
Gauss Guzzler
Safety Score = 42
Oh, I think you might be on to something bigger than your sarcasm suggests. It's obviously not possible to manufacture a red underline long enough to span the new trunk-width lettering so they will have to create a "badge" like they did with the Plaid. And a badged car should certainly be more than just a software-unlocked mid-range model.
I'd bet the price starts at $63K for the first few months but then they're gonna need to get it under the $55K limit pretty quickly so they'll have to keep the cost down by doing something cheap but clever. The new CATL cells will probably allow for higher discharge rates, but that won't be enough to warrant a "badge". If they combine that with a reduced back-EMF rear rotor like the Plaid, now we're talking some kickass 1/4 mile figures.
The Plaid-style rotor design costs nothing extra to design or produce - in theory - it's all the same old magnets and iron. But the trick to its EMF properties is that the iron is segmented which makes it ridiculously fragile and completely unusable without the carbon overwrap. Carbon filament winding is very expensive and might add as much as $15 or even $20 to the cost, making it prohibitive for a $7000 upgrade package, but maybe if they keep the speed limiter at 162mph and cut the range by a few percent, they can get away with a $2 metal sleeve instead?
Throw in a set of foglights and a rear "diffuser" and you've got an unbeatable beast that only cost an additional $2 to produce, yet sells for an extra $7K!
Unless there is a new battery, forget about it being significantly quicker.
Destiny1701
22’ M3LR ‘DrkNite’/ 22’ MYP BliueRocket
Real world PM3 numbers seem to outdo Teslas oem specs. Many videos on this.
IF… and i mean if Tesla has been slightly limiting the current output of the Perf 3, then it’s possible a ‘ludicrous mode’ remapping/unlocking of power delivery could irk out another .2 to .3 sec off the spec.
3.1 to 2.9/2.8…(2.6/2.7 real world) who knows
That and some tricks with lighter rims than the elephant Uber turbines.
One can hope.
IF… and i mean if Tesla has been slightly limiting the current output of the Perf 3, then it’s possible a ‘ludicrous mode’ remapping/unlocking of power delivery could irk out another .2 to .3 sec off the spec.
3.1 to 2.9/2.8…(2.6/2.7 real world) who knows
That and some tricks with lighter rims than the elephant Uber turbines.
One can hope.
It could be argued that there has not been a Performance model since the LG 5L battery replaced the Panasonic 3L in 2022Q2.
Candleflame
Active Member
the problem is that the Model 3 just isnt as good of a cruiser car as the S. While the S does feel a bit more landboatish it's not that bad (and not worse than a 7 vs 3 series) but the S has way better noise isolation, more comfortable seats, better driving position, proper dash screen, ability to see music and map etc.
I blame Tesla on this entirely, the 3 has a lot of compromises for no reason. You really gotta appreciate how with i.e. BMW the 1/3/7/8 series largely determines the size of the car and not much else minus each below model getting a new feature a year later.
Destiny1701
22’ M3LR ‘DrkNite’/ 22’ MYP BliueRocket
No debate the S is a better daily cruiser than the 3
But not a better handling vehicle.I don’t believe this impacts what they will do for a new PM3. Tesla has a Perf version of every one of their S3XY lineup and that won’t change anytime soon given the profit margins on them.
I do agree the 3 does compromise some as Tesla simply took the S and removed out features to come down to the 3 production costs and pricing. In the end you get what you pay for or rather you get what you don’t pay for…nothing new on our money/material system planet
I’ve had an S and now a 3/Y and while the S is quieter, they are different machines. I prefer the 3 for its nimble and point/shoot steering and body roll. Quite impressive. I’d drive the S for a more comfort drive and longer distances.
Each doesn’t take from the other imo. Different class of car!
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There’s no HW4 in these press cars we’ve seen so far?I reckon it will have 4 wheels, and the rest will be either worse or better than now.
Actual info from EU launch of Highland configurator here:
Revamped Tesla Model 3 'Highland' Officially Unveiled in Europe and Available to Order
The 2024 Tesla Model 3 has been revealed through updates to the company's European sites, allowing some customers to order the new car for October-November. Here's what we know!
The good:
- ventilated front seats
- rear passengers 8-inch touchscreen, with rear climate controls
- trunk space, which is up ever so slightly to 21 cubic feet.
The bad:
- no more turn signal stalk (must stumble through left-side steering wheel controls) <- this is full-on moronic!
- no more gear selector stalk (must stumble through touchscreen) <- this will be inconvenient
- softer suspension
- marginally more expensive
- no hardware 4, no new battery pack
The meah:
- marginal exterior styling changes
- marginal aerodynamics / range (maybe?) improvements
- upgraded audio system from 14 to 17 speakers (would have to listen to see if there is any actual difference)
- customizable interior ambient lighting
Well now we’ve got some people calling HW4 in the Model Y HW3.5 since it includes less memory and storage than HW3 and no radar or front camera. I wonder if it really does have HW4, but people are just saying it doesn’t because it doesn’t match what they had in mind for HW4. As far as I’m concerned, if it has the HW4 self driving computer, it’s HW4, even if there’s no radar and the infotainment memory and storage are downgraded.
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
Perhaps HW4 lite is a better name than HW3.5 given presumably even if radar, front camera and the infotainment memory/storage is upgraded, it'll still be the same board.
Technically the infotainment computer is separate from the self driving (HW1/2/2.5/3/4) computer we typically refer to. And we know for sure that Highland has a variant of the Ryzen system found on today's Model 3.
But I would be shocked if the self-driving computer in Highland wasn't HW4, upon release to paying customers.
