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The risk comes later when you remove the PPF.
Can you briefly explain the risk when removing the PPF? I'm somewhat aware of issues on prominent sun-exposed ares like the hood, but what's the risk for this rocker panel area?

I'm wondering why this issue of paint damage from normal use hasn't been more frequently discussed on this site considering the Model 3 is about 2 years old now with over 100k cars on the roads. A significant number of cars have already gone through at least one winter in the US.

If it was happening on all or even most Model 3s, wouldn't there be a lot more discussion here? I've been to Finland a few times and from what I recall (last time was 4 years ago), the road conditions there are different with more loose gravel, but I would think there are least some areas of the US that are close enough.

Is it only happening in areas that use sand on the roads?
 
Can you briefly explain the risk when removing the PPF? I'm somewhat aware of issues on prominent sun-exposed ares like the hood, but what's the risk for this rocker panel area?

I'm wondering why this issue of paint damage from normal use hasn't been more frequently discussed on this site considering the Model 3 is about 2 years old now with over 100k cars on the roads. A significant number of cars have already gone through at least one winter in the US.

If it was happening on all or even most Model 3s, wouldn't there be a lot more discussion here? I've been to Finland a few times and from what I recall (last time was 4 years ago), the road conditions there are different with more loose gravel, but I would think there are least some areas of the US that are close enough.

Is it only happening in areas that use sand on the roads?

No. It is happening on all roads. Even on tarmac.
 
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See this is where we differ quite a bit. Having done contacts with US and EU companies, on the US everything and all edge cases need to be mentioned and agreed. Here in the old world we tend to have a bit less of a "**** you" attitude and can have expectations on what a product, a car in this instance, needs to withstand before starting to show signs of wear and tear.

That would have to be codified somehow/somewhere, even if it is a vague statement. I'm just curious what it says that gives such broad virtually unlimited protections.
 
Puuh, the consumer protection laws in Finland and in the EU when it comes to buying cars (used or new) are actually worse than the US ones. So there’s that. No lemon laws, no proper car history tracking etc.

Then you really need to read what the warranty is for from finnish consumer law. 15 a. 13.12.2001-1258 and check also place called

"defect liability"

I am glad that if we need to fight this with Tesla we have our officials to helps us and insurances to cover the legal bills.

I am hoping that Tesla will have a wake up call SOON like Apple had in EU when they tried to slip out their responsibilities on the products... :)
 
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For reference, my wife's car had about 22,000 miles on it, and looked like it had 22,000 miles on it, in the exact same rocker sections. Her's was what I consider 'normal'. Actually a bit worse than normal, but I'd take it as acceptable, but not ideal.

My car (same black model 3) shows MORE wear on the rockers at 3,000 miles.

So, I don't believe this affects all 3s. Also note the S, X, and Y all have lovely durable plastic covering the rockers.. as nature intended. It may not be as cute, but my S's sides were flawless after 60,000 miles.
 
For reference, my wife's car had about 22,000 miles on it, and looked like it had 22,000 miles on it, in the exact same rocker sections. Her's was what I consider 'normal'. Actually a bit worse than normal, but I'd take it as acceptable, but not ideal.

My car (same black model 3) shows MORE wear on the rockers at 3,000 miles.

So, I don't believe this affects all 3s. Also note the S, X, and Y all have lovely durable plastic covering the rockers.. as nature intended. It may not be as cute, but my S's sides were flawless after 60,000 miles.


You are right. I had 1200 miles on tarmac ( about 2000 km ) and this picture tells more than thousand words. I can't believe this.
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Can you briefly explain the risk when removing the PPF? I'm somewhat aware of issues on prominent sun-exposed ares like the hood, but what's the risk for this rocker panel area?

I'm wondering why this issue of paint damage from normal use hasn't been more frequently discussed on this site considering the Model 3 is about 2 years old now with over 100k cars on the roads. A significant number of cars have already gone through at least one winter in the US.

If it was happening on all or even most Model 3s, wouldn't there be a lot more discussion here? I've been to Finland a few times and from what I recall (last time was 4 years ago), the road conditions there are different with more loose gravel, but I would think there are least some areas of the US that are close enough.

Is it only happening in areas that use sand on the roads?

This winter was the first winter for Canadian Model 3’s and really the first winter for 10’s of thousands of US 3’s as well. It’s most likely winter sanding, small gravel and rock salt that presents the greatest issue. I just received the California Guards (minimal ones) and will be installing them shortly. I’ll document it here.

PPF on the original rockers is a great idea. PPF on repaired and repainted rockers is fine as well however rocker PPF is going to get beat up over a couple of winters and may require replacement. Removing PPF from a repainted surface without the paint coming with it is challenging.
 
Good luck with the claims. No way in hell will any of you get your vehicles repainted. It's not just the rocker. The entire side would need to be painted in order to match the paint and not look like a.$$ GOOD LUCK WITH THAT

Thanks ;) We'll update you guys once a conclusion has been reached. You seem to be so eager to see what a socialist country with pro-consumer legislation can and can't do, so we'll be happy to provide a bit more info once we get this train moving. As far as I know, a sizable bunch of people to whom this paint problem is an issue have already contacted the authorities who have already reached out to Tesla. So someone, somewhere, thinks that there might be a case here.

Stay strong fanboys, stay strong. It is only a consumer grade product anyways and in many ways very poorly constructed when compared to the competition. And in many ways light years ahead.
 
No, I haven't. Also I am wondering how come you have some much differences between cars then.

Do remember that the paint coverage between the cars varies surprising amounts, even if they are painted by robots and by logic they should be able to do the exact same paint job over and over again. But they don't.

It wouldn't surprise me if the composition of the paint as well as the amount sprayed varies between the different batches of the cars.
 
Do remember that the paint coverage between the cars varies surprising amounts, even if they are painted by robots and by logic they should be able to do the exact same paint job over and over again. But they don't.

It wouldn't surprise me if the composition of the paint as well as the amount sprayed varies between the different batches of the cars.
I didn't know that actually, I appreciate the info. It sucks for the unlucky oned...
 
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Maybe it's just not a good example, but that white car is by far the least objectionable IMO. Crossing my fingers as my car is white! :p Going to keep an eye on this and if I start to notice anything similar I'll probably go with the low profile mug flaps.
 
I also want to see these aluminum rust photo's....

Some of the body panels are steel including the rear quarter panel at least. I am using magnetic sheets for my HOV stickers, and they adhere fine to the rear quarter panel. Bumper is not magnetic, but the trunk lid is. Not sure about the rocker panel, as I didnt test that one.

And aluminum does corrode too if not properly protected from the weather.