100%. I've said something almost identical in a couple of posts before, particularly pointing out HMG (Hyundai Motor Group = Genesis, KIA, & Hyundai)* and Mercedes. They are very advanced in their autonomous driving tech and will be the biggest threat to Tesla. - The Safety Suite 2.0 on HMG cars is remarkable and in some ways actually better than Tesla's system.
Between Genesis and Tesla, there is no comparison when it comes to quality, fit & finish, tolerance levels, warranty, features that should exist in a $70K car etc... the Genesis is a much better EV at the end of the day when you weigh all things on the scale.
HMG also tend to under estimate their range, which is better than over promising like Tesla does. In the real world HMG EVs are very competitive and wipes the floor in its class over VWs for example, which is another story in itself. The ID4, ID5 etc... terrible. - For another time lol...
You make a very good point about how folks are throwing money at Elon for nothing really (that actually works or is available) in return, but broken promises. Can't fault Tesla lol they sure do know how to work it so *golf clap* kudos to them.
You've also hit the nail on the head about the clock ticking for Tesla. I think a lot of folks forget that Tesla has had a HUGE head start ahead of anything so when you're the only one on the field with no competition (prior to the new EVs coming out now like with the GV60, IONIQ5/6 and KIA EV6) you can get away with a lot. - Like creating a cult and getting people to accept less as being an upgrade; in their mind.
There are a lot of parallels with Tesla and Apple. - Apple went from making premium stuff to falling off the deep end with making disposable stuff and riding on their prior success WAVE. I think the head start with Tesla is what has kept them afloat, but that wave is residing.
The entire EV landscape will be very different between now and 2025. It has already begun and the truth is Tesla has to do something NOW before it's too late.
* btw I spelled out the acronym for the folks that may have not known what HMG stands for, not for you as I'm sure you knew already.
With all that said... I can't wait to get my M3P.
It's a kit car with amazing driving dynamics and motors. Beta is actually proper as these cars are very unfinished.
I have high hopes that Tesla will improve on the areas they lack in, but in a few years if they're still offering cars with a lack of features that it absolutely should have at the price point, my M3P will be my first and last Tesla without a doubt.
There are strong points to the M3P that I love and those things are enough to allow Tesla to be a stop gap for me until we are presented with some incredible offerings by the legacy auto makers, particularly HMG with their N Line of EVs.
I just saw a video today of the Genesis GV60 Performance clocking in 3.7-3.8 seconds 0-60, which is on par with the MYP. That's crazy considering that it's wrapped in those heavy 21" wheels too. Imagine if it had smaller and lighter wheels.
For the price, even at MSRP the GV60 Performance is one heck of a bargain. It's so much more EV for the money that provides you with actual luxury compared to the MYP.
The only thing that it may lack compared to the MYP is the range; however, again the GV60P are riding on 21" wheels, which I'm positive is making a huge dent in the range. - But even stock with those 21" wheels, in the real world the range isn't too shabby and likely not too different than the MYP. (Real world.)
Then you have the 800v architecture on the HMG EVs that allows you to charge:
- 0%-70% in 18 mins
- 10%-80% in 18 mins
- 0%-80% in 25 mins
It's very real and very impressive. There are videos showing this. (Genesis offers 3 years of free charging, complimentary.)
You're absolutely right about the Tesla Effect and what it represents and portrays. It's well deserved and as always...credit to where it's due. Tesla has done an incredible thing with paving the way for EVs and alike...
Your 430i comment cracked me up! Ha!