What IF... They removed radar and this is a similar hold as the 3/Y had last month. He has always said he wanted everything on the same FSD Hardware stack....Could be this batch(including mine) doesn't have radar. Love to speculate, maybe i will be famous and Elektrek with run with that.
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Model S Delivery Hold Week of July 19 2021
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If Tesla knows about an issue, which they clearly do, and it poses any kind of danger, then they would be in a huge pile of s**t if they did not immediately advise current owners. Whatever is going on is likely not dangerous. OTOH, maybe it is, and Tesla is displaying massive incompetence. I tend to think the former.
sc05
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Naive, I don't think so.
I can't speak for others but my biggest issue is the non-communication. They're acting like it's no big deal but they're not considering people have a life. I'm sure this is a secondary vehicle for some of you, but this is going to be my primary car. I currently don't have a car because I was supposed to get mine last Sunday. I should also mention that leading up to Sunday, I confirmed with Tesla 4 days in a row that i'm all set for Sunday, then Sunday morning they say never mind with no care. After I got rid of the car I was using and moved all sorts of business meeting and tasks aside because they said I was ready to go, nope not yet.
The email, not a phone call, but the email I received the morning of my delivery, after 4 days of "you're all set for Sunday", was "refrain from coming to the store today". Really, refrain from driving 2.5 hours to the store!!?! They're acting like it's a flipping Chevy dealer where there's one in every city. They have no idea how much work it took to clear an entire Sunday so I could drive 2.5 hours away. All this week I've been shuffling work around, why, because my normal schedule means I wont be able to take delivery for at least another 3 weeks. I'm a very busy person as i'm sure many of you are as well.
So, maybe for PR they don't want to tell me what specifically is wrong, fine; At least give me a decent &#*king ETA? Tell me now it'll be a month and I can move on with my life. "Don't know what's wrong but it'll be at least 2 months", fine, just tell me that. Anyone believing that they have absolutely no clue how long this will take is certainly naive. Someone at Tesla knows, they've decided we're not important enough to also know.
Pdubs
Ingesting large quantities of LSD
i got a generic text today from my Tuesday delivery:
"Your Tesla Model S Update:
Thank you for your patience during this time. We know you are eager to get behind the wheel of your beautiful new car and we want to ensure everything is perfect for you. We have tentatively moved your appointment to Sunday 8/1 at 5PM. Your vehicle may not be ready by then. This is simply a place holder. We are still waiting for an update on the firmware push for your Model S. We will be contacting you as soon as we know more and are here to do anything we can to ensure this is an incredible experience for you moving forward.
We hope that you have a wonderful weekend. We will be in touch as soon as we have information to schedule your delivery!
-TESLA"
"Your Tesla Model S Update:
Thank you for your patience during this time. We know you are eager to get behind the wheel of your beautiful new car and we want to ensure everything is perfect for you. We have tentatively moved your appointment to Sunday 8/1 at 5PM. Your vehicle may not be ready by then. This is simply a place holder. We are still waiting for an update on the firmware push for your Model S. We will be contacting you as soon as we know more and are here to do anything we can to ensure this is an incredible experience for you moving forward.
We hope that you have a wonderful weekend. We will be in touch as soon as we have information to schedule your delivery!
-TESLA"
IamGaryGnu
Endless IBS
Even though the refresh has (or at least had) radar, i'm not sure they were doing anything with it on this new variant.
IamGaryGnu
Endless IBS
I think the Ford Pinto showed what happens when you know about bad stuff and ignore or don't reveal. In that case, as I understand it, Ford execs felt the "few" deaths would be cheaper to pay off in Court than the cost to fix the problem. And they got hit with some pretty harsh punitive damages. So I doubt that would be the case.
I CAN imagine a manufacturing issue (perhaps) with the newer cars starting with <insert VIN or date here> and not affecting cars up to <insert older VINs here> thus no immediate recall for those in the wild.
Maybe it's chip based, but I would have to believe Tesla would say, "chip issue"
I'd like to hear what is said to investors about the hold - whether safety, quality, supply, etc.
IamGaryGnu
Endless IBS
that may be the most clear information for A hold, not necessarily THE hold, that I've seen yet. This works with my theory that there are different chip suppliers, and Tesla needs firmware for different chips. I have no basis, just my guess. For example, why would the firmware for jparg015's car require it to stay in the shop, when there are so many S's in the wild?
ONLY thing I can think of, is because it uses DIFFERENT firmware - and by that, I mean the stuff to control the chips, and maybe a different chip in batch A than batch B, and then Tesla will have the joy of uniform firmware to cover it all - or pieces of firmware for certain hardware layers.
Apple can really control their MacBooks because there's relatively little variety.
Windoze on the other hand has to work with a zillion different hardware configurations.
The chip shortage may be pushing Tesla a bit into the Windoze category with perhaps multiple chips (and maybe boards?) to get around the chip shortage.
Just speculating.
Zaker89
2021 Model S LR / Red-Black / Since 07.31.2021
I know your intention. The reason for the down vote is everyone here knows they're clearly fixing firmware bugs since every software needs updates and bug fixing.
You've just joined the early access program and received the update. That doesn't mean the update is releases just now.
Somebody here has their life ans had to cancel their flights. It's not that easy to say end of discussion with those infos.
No offense with your intention. Good luck with your plaid!
VLTWGGN
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The fw update to release the cars for delivery should be out “in about 2 weeks” 
I was simply stating it is firmware henece the unsolicited invite to EA and subsequent firmware. I understand people are frustrated (understandably) but I wanted alieve any fears of serious mechanical issues or failures. I will keep my experience to myself. Hope everyone gets their cars soon.
My scheduled delivery date has just got updated from 7/24 @ 10 AM to 7/27 @ 10AM
At this point, I think it’s as accurate as the EDD w/o VIN lol.
At this point, I think it’s as accurate as the EDD w/o VIN lol.
The point of this forum to exchange news/thoughts/opinions/knowledge. We are all frustrated, but experiences you shared (or will share) are definitely welcomed, whether we like to hear them or not haha.
Any update to EDD for vehicles already at delivery center is just a place holder for now. My EDD change to 7/28 but Tesla rep was very clear that until they get clearance, the schedule is not confirmed.
derevan007
LR (1/30) RN11444 Red/Blk|FSD|21| July 24 | VIN436
I'm getting rolling EDD now that automatically updates every day, always a four day window, including today's date.
I had a few tentative appointments, starting the 15th, then the 18th, then 24th, but I think they gave up trying to predict. Basically, the hold could be lifted at a moment's notice, but no one knows how long this will drag on.
IamGaryGnu
Endless IBS
hopefully before winterThe fw update to release the cars for delivery should be out “in about 2 weeks”
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