Model X - 2013 Detroit Auto Show

[fengshui]

Another nice article from Detroit, with some interesting new pictures:
http://jalopnik.com/5976191/the-tes...ow-that-really-feels-like-its-from-the-future

 

[Lloyd]

Anyone going should ask about the All wheel drive, roof racks and a tow hitch.

And performance version stats, Battery size (120 kw?), Price?

 

[PureAmps]

What would make us excited for the X would be the extra headroom, the all wheel drive (for winter mountain driving), a fold down split third row like the S but forward facing and regular old dino-style back doors... basically, if we could have something approximating the Toyota Highlander but EV and X-like, we'd put down a reservation tomorrow!

Probably not the right thread to discuss this, but I share your sentiment. I have a 10 year old SUV that I would like to eventually replace. But I need the Utility part of the SUV. I need to be able to toss stuff on the roof: skis, bikes, cargo boxes, christmas trees (sorry kids, you can no longer come with daddy to pick out the christmas tree, because once it's on the roof you can't get in or out of the car). I need AWD for winter mountain driving. I need plenty of range and extended battery life so I can drive to a remote camping location, let the car sit for a few days, and then make it back home without having to plug in.

Since I just bought the S, I'm planning on holding onto my existing SUV for a couple years longer to see how the Model X shapes up. If they just made the falcon wing doors optional and offered a larger battery pack, I think I'd be ready to buy... Oh, almost forgot, it needs a few more cup holders....

 

[Lyon]

Probably not the right thread to discuss this, but I share your sentiment. I have a 10 year old SUV that I would like to eventually replace. But I need the Utility part of the SUV. I need to be able to toss stuff on the roof: skis, bikes, cargo boxes, christmas trees (sorry kids, you can no longer come with daddy to pick out the christmas tree, because once it's on the roof you can't get in or out of the car). I need AWD for winter mountain driving. I need plenty of range and extended battery life so I can drive to a remote camping location, let the car sit for a few days, and then make it back home without having to plug in.

Since I just bought the S, I'm planning on holding onto my existing SUV for a couple years longer to see how the Model X shapes up. If they just made the falcon wing doors optional and offered a larger battery pack, I think I'd be ready to buy... Oh, almost forgot, it needs a few more cup holders....

Sounds like you've got some great thoughts about how Tesla could improve on Model S with Model X... why don't you head on over here and leave some ideas: http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/12556-Lessons-from-Model-S-to-be-applied-to-Model-X

 

[100thMonkey]

I keep reading up on the show, looking at the photos, hoping for some explanation of what nifty alternative to a roof rack is being offered. seems a while back there was something put out suggesting that they had an alternative that would impress... still waiting and hoping. Maybe it's a testament to how "outside the box" the S is that I am at all hopeful that they have a trick up their sleeve that I just can't imagine. Looking at the pictures, the X just has the feeling of super exotic, ultra gloss fancy, when what we want is practical, rugged and pure EV. I hate to say it, but VW's plug in hybrid, CrossBlue, is looking like a good interim option for us while we "wait and see".

Probably not the right thread to discuss this, but I share your sentiment. I have a 10 year old SUV that I would like to eventually replace. But I need the Utility part of the SUV. I need to be able to toss stuff on the roof: skis, bikes, cargo boxes, christmas trees (sorry kids, you can no longer come with daddy to pick out the christmas tree, because once it's on the roof you can't get in or out of the car). I need AWD for winter mountain driving. I need plenty of range and extended battery life so I can drive to a remote camping location, let the car sit for a few days, and then make it back home without having to plug in.

Since I just bought the S, I'm planning on holding onto my existing SUV for a couple years longer to see how the Model X shapes up. If they just made the falcon wing doors optional and offered a larger battery pack, I think I'd be ready to buy... Oh, almost forgot, it needs a few more cup holders....

 

[Norbert]

Interesting hint about Model X pricing which I haven't seen before:

Electric Tesla Model X to compete with premium SUVs, minivans | Windsor Star

Though he would not disclose pricing, Franz von Holzhausen, Tesla’s chief designer said Model X will be priced competitively with premium SUVs and about five to 10 per cent more than the Tesla S four-door sedan which starts at $57,400 US. Production is expected to begin next year at Tesla’s plant in Fremont, Calif.

 

[mikevbf]

Interesting hint about Model X pricing which I haven't seen before:

Electric Tesla Model X to compete with premium SUVs, minivans | Windsor Star

First I have heard of an increase in price over the Model S. Those fancy doors have to cost a pretty penny in research and implementation. I wish they had stuck to more conventional door solutions and passed the savings on to us consumers. That 5 to 10 percent is also probably over the new Model S price not the old one. Add an AWD option and this quickly becomes an extremely expensive CUV.

 

[Local host]

Add an AWD option and this quickly becomes an extremely expensive CUV.

If its 10 percent more, than I really hope that includes AWD, but I won't hold my breath. It will be really hard to justify the cost over other high end SUVs. That sucks!

 

[brianman]

If its 10 percent more, than I really hope that includes AWD, but I won't hold my breath.

If there were a betting line on this, I'd be betting against that.

You don't announce (a) an optional (for pay) feature and (b) a "more" price of new model vs. old model, and then include (a) in (b).

 

[bonnie]

RE pricing and former statements that Model X will be 'similar in pricing to the Model S'... My assumption has always been the X will be *similar* IF similar options (ie, no AWD), similar battery, and similar to the price of the Model S at the point in time that the X is shipped.

Meaning I've never thought I'd be paying about the same for a 2014 Model X as I would for a similarly-equipped 2012 Model S. (Wonder what Model S will be selling for then?) Then add on AWD and the biggest battery they have and performance and and and ... well, I'm not expecting to get off cheaply.

#couponcutting

 

[aronth5]

Interesting hint about Model X pricing which I haven't seen before:

Electric Tesla Model X to compete with premium SUVs, minivans | Windsor Star

The article is mis-leading though on the price. Yes the Model S starts at $57,400 but that is for the 40kWh model. However, as we know the Model X starts with the 60kWh battery so the entry level price is alot higher.

 

[EcoHeliGuy]

The article is mis-leading though on the price. Yes the Model S starts at $57,400 but that is for the 40kWh model. However, as we know the Model X starts with the 60kWh battery so the entry level price is alot higher.

I doubt you will see a 40KW Model S by the time the model X is out.

 

[Doug_G]

I doubt you will see a 40KW Model S by the time the model X is out.

I do believe Tesla has said they would be available in March. Model X sill be more than a year after that.

 

[strangethingintheland]

I do believe Tesla has said they would be available in March. Model X sill be more than a year after that.

I think you are right. However, I read EcoHeliGuy's comment a little differently. I thought he was saying that by the time the Model X ships, they will have discontinued the 40 KW option. I think there is some evidence to support this. Namely, not selling a 40 kW model in Europe, and the statement that all future products they ship will be compatible with the Superchargers.

 

[ToddRLockwood]

A truly moronic article about the Model X at the Detroit Auto Show...

Tesla’s Model X Has Every Single Feature, Except A Soul | Co.Design: business + innovation + design

As ridiculous as this article is, it does make me wonder whether Tesla should have shown the car in a darker color at Detroit. The colors shown on Tesla's web site really seem to make the shape of the Model X sing.

 

[bonnie]

The author got owned on the comments. As he deserved to be.

 

[brianman]

The author got owned on the comments. As he deserved to be.

Wait, I thought the lesson from the other thread was that comments are just crowd-sourced propaganda.

 

[dpeilow]

Wait, I thought the lesson from the other thread was that comments are just crowd-sourced propaganda.

So THAT'S where the Tesla marketing budget went...

 

[bonnie]

Wait, I thought the lesson from the other thread was that comments are just crowd-sourced propaganda.

Except when we agree with the comments.

 

[tdelta1000]

Do we know if the panels for this Model X were stamped at the Tesla factory which may explain why they did not want any picture taken or was that outsourced?