Just picked up the car, confirmed it has the new battery.
Additionally they changed the drive unit due to beginning milling noise.
All covered by warranty, amazing service for an 8 year old car.
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New 85kWH battery for my 2013 P85+
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Additionally they changed the drive unit due to beginning milling noise.
All covered by warranty, amazing service for an 8 year old car.
If it's a capped 90 kWh battery, you can probably always charge to 100% without doing significant damage to the battery.
Usually they are capped at the top.
Quick check with SMT at 69% battery as indicated by the car.
SOC: 63.1%
SOC Min: 68.8%
SOC UI: 65.2%
Battery voltage: 329V
Cell volt avg: 3.912Vc
Cell diff: 0.005Vcd
84 modules
Nominal full pack: 87.2kWh
Nominal remaining: 56.9kWh
Energy buffer: 5.0kWh
Usable: 51.9kWh
Rated range: 346km/215 miles
Ideal range: 277km/172 miles
Full rated range: 549km/341 miles
Full ideal range: 439km/273 miles
I expect these numbers might change a bit after a few charge cycles.
SMT does not seem to be able to detect the capping so these numbers are full capacity/range.
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Biggest issue I might see with a 84S pack vs a 96S pack is that all else being equal, for a given power delivery current will have to be higher. When Supercharging, this might limit speeds somewhat, though it'll be better than an old pack.
For example, 120 kW is around 300A for a 96S pack. A 84S pack will either be capped around 105 kW, or the current will have to be higher at around 340A.
Would be very interesting to get your car on a V3 Supercharger and to see what the charge curve is like from ~10% to ~90%.
I did charge on a V2 supercharger on my way home.
Started at 25% at 116kW and stopped at 75% at around 70kW.
That was after a 20 minute drive at 15 degrees C, navigating to the SuC and the car saying it was preheating the battery.
I left the car to do some shopping so I do not know the numbers in between, but this seems as fast as the car used to be before chargegate.
Started at 25% at 116kW and stopped at 75% at around 70kW.
That was after a 20 minute drive at 15 degrees C, navigating to the SuC and the car saying it was preheating the battery.
I left the car to do some shopping so I do not know the numbers in between, but this seems as fast as the car used to be before chargegate.
Man, I'm so envious. My 2013 Model S gets 215 miles on a full charge and is chargegated. And before my warranty expired I tried to get them to change my battery. No dice.
Charged to 100% overnight using UMC 3kW AC.
SMT now shows:
SOC: 91.0%
SOC Min: 92.2%
SOC UI: 91.6%
Battery voltage: 346V
Cell volt avg: 4.119Vc
Cell diff: 0.005Vcd
Nominal full pack: 87.3kWh
Nominal remaining: 79.9kWh
Energy buffer: 5.0kWh
Usable: 74.9kWh
Rated range: 499km/310 miles
Ideal range: 399km/248 miles
Full rated range: 554km/344 miles
Full ideal range: 443km/275 miles
So seems to be capped at 80kWh (usable+buffer=nominal remaining), which means there is a sizeable buffer of 7kWh at the top. Hopefully that means I will not see any effects of degradation for a few years.
Overall very happy with this outcome, although I feel for those who were not as lucky.
I hope Tesla eventually comes through for all their early adopters.
SMT now shows:
SOC: 91.0%
SOC Min: 92.2%
SOC UI: 91.6%
Battery voltage: 346V
Cell volt avg: 4.119Vc
Cell diff: 0.005Vcd
Nominal full pack: 87.3kWh
Nominal remaining: 79.9kWh
Energy buffer: 5.0kWh
Usable: 74.9kWh
Rated range: 499km/310 miles
Ideal range: 399km/248 miles
Full rated range: 554km/344 miles
Full ideal range: 443km/275 miles
So seems to be capped at 80kWh (usable+buffer=nominal remaining), which means there is a sizeable buffer of 7kWh at the top. Hopefully that means I will not see any effects of degradation for a few years.
Overall very happy with this outcome, although I feel for those who were not as lucky.
I hope Tesla eventually comes through for all their early adopters.
BigNick
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Hmm, seems too good to be true on second thought.
I may have remembered this wrong as I was in a bit of a hurry to get home.
Will double check next time.
Why is it capped at 80 kWh? You bought a 85 kWh battery with your car.
I know - 85 was 81 bla bla bla bla - but hey, now they have installed a battery that can actually give you the 85 kWh you bought, so why cap it to 80?
By the way, the 350V 85 kWh I got is not capped and at 100% it says 424 km in my P85DL.
I went back to them and asked about if I was missing 75 kW of peak power due to the fact that it's a 350V and not 400V. They were surprised at my question, and initially gave me the song about EV's are special and you can not messure peak power bla bla bla. The tune changed a bit when I asked what part of calculating kW the voltage had, and they would said that may be some merrit to my question. They would start a dialouge with somebody at Frimont, now several months later, they have not returned with an answer. Will follow-up again tomorrow.
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