WannabeOwner
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I recorded a small video
Hadn't considered using thumb-of-other-hand to "indicate left" to leave the roundabout. I can see that would work for me too. Thanks.
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I recorded a small video
That is how I have done it since day one. No issues with any types of turns or roundabouts no matter what angle the wheel is at.Hadn't considered using thumb-of-other-hand to "indicate left" to leave the roundabout. I can see that would work for me too. Thanks.
I found this when I first got my M3HLR, I have figured that its designed to be held at 9 and 3 rather than 10 and 2. at 9 and 3 its a lot more comfortable to hold, and there are "bolsters" on the back of the wheel to grip.I liked the look of the steering wheel but didn't find it as comfortable as the old one.
Ah ha ... you reckoned without the mudskipper!I guess it is a bit like that old adage goes "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." - my point being, not everyone will adapt, but not everyone will struggle.
You really need to adopt that holding position to use the indicators so it makes sense they have made it most comfortable in that position.I have figured that its designed to be held at 9 and 3 rather than 10 and 2.
I have the same MSLR. I still have not gotten used to the stupid buttons, nor have many other New S drivers. There are many where I live and I consistently notice drivers of the New S tend use their indicators far less than drivers of older S or other models. Not just on roundabouts, but in many normal situations. Clearly these buttons are unsafe and should have never been allowed. This would be a recall I would actually support!I have a 2022 MSLR with a yoke. I never test drove before I drove it off the lot. I was looking forward to something new. The turn signals are easy to find as they have a raised line between them. It took me a week to learn how to use them about 90% without hitting the wrong one. It took about three weeks to learn them 100%. I go through two traffic circles on the way home. They are narrow one lane and we don't use turn signals. We always yield in these small neighborhood circles. I know what a three point turn (TPT) is. But the OP saying signaling in this type of turn doesn't make sense to me. Look at our TPT as a tight U turn. The turn direction is just one direction, never changing. So signal once before initiating.
If you're really passionate about this then file a complaint with NHTSA. If enough people complain, maybe they will force a recall or prevent new cars from having these. I think NHTSA is focused on safety.Clearly these buttons are unsafe and should have never been allowed.
Oops, I just noticed this is a UK thread. Maybe you have an equivalent to the USA's NHTSA.If you're really passionate about this then file a complaint with NHTSA. If enough people complain, maybe they will force a recall or prevent new cars from having these. I think NHTSA is focused on safety.
Oops, I just noticed this is a UK thread. Maybe you have an equivalent to the USA's NHTSA.
I think there are 3rd party options for those who are really struggling that badly with the buttons.
Yeah, it really takes all of five minutes to get used to. The video with the roundabouts I posted earlier in this thread was filmed two days after I took delivery.For the most part its people that dont have button that struggle with them as far as I can see including me that has not tried.
Having said that, riding a scooter many years ago, I did curse who ever thought it was a good idea to put a brake where the clutch should be.... Live and learn...
I do appreciate that not everyone adapts as quickly, but to say they are unsafe is completely false.
Yeah, my meaning is the system itself is not unsafe, it's the ability (or willingness) to adapt.It's not false to those that say it though.
Yes... There are two kinds of people... those that are willing and unable and those that are able and unwilling...Yeah, my meaning is the system itself is not unsafe, it's the ability (or willingness) to adapt.
Yet people are willing AND able to use stalks. So why replace them with buttons. So long as there are people that are either unable, or unwilling, to use buttons, then it is inherently less safer.Yeah, my meaning is the system itself is not unsafe, it's the ability (or willingness) to adapt.