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Newer P90DL makes 662 hp at the battery!!!
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lolachampcar
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IEng is plugged in somehow as she/he is constantly providing nice quality tidbits that normally turn out to be absolutely correct. Not sure where the information is coming from but it tends to be accurate.
The info could be in the software like the logo and other references to the p100d were many months before the release.
Tech_Guy
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from my understanding all software updates contain data for all the cars thus he can access the info for the various models from his V1P90DL
It would be about 550kw or 737 battery horsepower. That would be about 650 HP at the motor shaft or about 60 more hp over the the latest p90dl
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We could guess, the old cars made 450KW at 1500AMP's the new ones made 512KW at 1600 a jump of 62KW per 100AMP's, so we could guess the new one will make about 605KW of power at 1750AMP's or about 686HP assuming the trend continues
using the KW to HP conversion 1KW = 1.34102209 HP
using the KW to HP conversion 1KW = 1.34102209 HP
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the other important number we don't know is Voltage sag, we won't know that until someone monitors the P100DL with a can bus logger or grabs the KW from the power tools app.
If there was no voltage sag at 400Volts it would be about 700KW at 1750AMP's. In reality the 1600 amp cars / packs only produce about 320 volts with sag. If the new pack produces about 346 volts with sag would equal about 605KW
If there was no voltage sag at 400Volts it would be about 700KW at 1750AMP's. In reality the 1600 amp cars / packs only produce about 320 volts with sag. If the new pack produces about 346 volts with sag would equal about 605KW
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605KW would be a pack voltage of 345 volts. The current drawn from the cells of the 100 pack is virtually identical to the current drawn from the cells of the 90 pack, so the voltage sag should be about the same, or around 310volts maybe just a little more. So something close to 550KW.
Tech_Guy
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The increase in cells is about equal to the the increase in current, so the current per cell is about the same. There would be less sag if the current remained at 1600 amps. It wouldn't be 35 volts less, though.
Plus the progression of 450Kw, 500Kw and 550Kw has a certain appeal.
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Tech_Guy
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In other related news one of my friends had a battery pack failure on Friday last week with a 1088 pack they have a replacement on order and expect it to arrive tomorrow and have his car back to him tomorrow afternoon
If the internal resistance is the same, then there will be a little more voltage drop so it won't be 1750 / 1600 increase in power. That said, it will be a lot more power
Your post indicates the power is constant and torque is varying. That is basically the opposite of what is happening. If that is not what you are saying, I didn't understand your post.
LargeHamCollider
Battery cells != scalable
Assuming the cells are the same and we know the drop at 1600A and the new cell count we can calculate the new voltage drop analytically.
I'm quite sure I know the new cell count but I've heard both 3.10 and 3.23 for the drop at 1600A.
I'm quite sure I know the new cell count but I've heard both 3.10 and 3.23 for the drop at 1600A.
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