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But the MCU controls chimes (turn signals, autopilot lane change notifications, etc), the rear backup camera and windshield defroster. One could certainly argue that if autopilot makes a lane change without notifying the user to be alert that autopilot could cause a crash that the user could have otherwise intervened in and prevented injury.As this has been debated years I remember that some members claimed that NTHSA will not issue a recall because mcu is not a safety problem
Currently I have put about $14000 in repairs over 7 years..
Actually you are right. These are all costs that added up starting a few weeks after the 4 year warranty ended. So technically a lot higher per year average. Almost everything has been replaced on my car. It is 14K in 3 years.Was it really over 7 years, or have you paid $14k in the last 3 years? (Assuming the first 4 years were under warranty unless you drove a lot and ended the warranty earlier because of mileage, but even that wouldn't have happened in the first year.)
Suppose Musk says no. Would it affect the sales of their cars?
Tesla doesn’t owe you a good experience. Just a functional MCU that can control the safety features of the car. A new daughterboard clearly accomplished this.
Never gonna happen.
All MCU2s have a bigger chip and are completely out of scope.
You can request a check right now for the MCU1 replacement under the warranty adjustment program. No need to wait.
Edit: @MP3Mike brought to my attention that the details of how to request a reimbursement are coming next month per the message they sent announcing the program.
In the letter to Tesla, the NHTSA estimates that the MCU failure takes an average of only 5-6 years. I bought a used Model S from Tesla (so still under warranty) and my MCU failed after 4.6 years and 36k total miles. It was replaced under warranty (with a refurbed MCU1) but since the odds of it failing again are 100% according to NHTSA, I'm curious what they are going to do permanently fix this. Tesla has a history of taking the cheap and easy way out and now they are going to have to pay for this behavior.
Even if it it wasn't for the fact that going with an MCU2 upgrade forces you to battery crippling software, it was still a non starter for me given that it destroys the SQ of MCU1 based Ultra High Fidelity sound system.
Every single action coming out of Tesla comes out of Musk. They won’t change the brand of toilet paper in the employee restrooms without getting approval from Musk.It's not a matter of Musk, this is squarely in the realm of VP's and accountants. That being said, if the company doesn't choose to advertise, they can not afford to lose positive word of mouth.
Indeed - Tesla doesn’t owe anyone a good experience. They can make the decisions to provide their owners a good experience.Disagree. I’m no stink constantly expecting Tesla to keep my car perfectly new. Without MCU2 in future firmware upgrades it will get to the far end of a poor experience and into poor usability with possible safety issues. Even after my HW3 upgrade definitely noticed a detriment to response time. The new daughter board definitely made a small difference but it is only time.
But agree that is very unlikely Tesla opts to offer a cheaper upgrade path. I don’t mind paying for it, it’s a decent price for making you our car feel new. So if Tesla doesn’t offer any discount, will definitely pay for this upgrade.
In the letter to Tesla, the NHTSA estimates that the MCU failure takes an average of only 5-6 years. I bought a used Model S from Tesla (so still under warranty) and my MCU failed after 4.6 years and 36k total miles. It was replaced under warranty (with a refurbed MCU1) but since the odds of it failing again are 100% according to NHTSA, I'm curious what they are going to do permanently fix this. Tesla has a history of taking the cheap and easy way out and now they are going to have to pay for this behavior.
You think so? Batterygate/chargegate recall would absolutely destroy them.Well they can more than afford them now
Every single action coming out of Tesla comes out of Musk. They won’t change the brand of toilet paper in the employee restrooms without getting approval from Musk.
This is what will keep Tesla from the upper echelon of beloved and respected brands.
...door handles.... it is a mix. I do not push on the handle, that's driver side and it lasted the longest. The back passenger side door almost never gets used and it was second to fail. My wifes door (passenger front) was the first to go, maybe she is pushing on the handle altho she says she does not. The back drivers side was the third one to fail and that door too almost never gets used except occasionally by me or rarely by a passenger.@Sudre side question, but do you (or your passengers) close the doors by holding/pushing the handle? Vs pushing on the painted part of the door (or glass).
Can he choose to?Suppose Musk says no. Would it affect the sales of their cars?
What sort of boggles my mind is that nobody at Tesla did the math on this.