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OEM CCS adapter now available to order in North America, Retrofit for older cars coming in 2023
- Thread starter MP3Mike
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I think the gist of it is, arriving at a non tesla fast charger with a cooler pack is not really going to hurt the pack so much as cause charge speeds to be reduced. The rates should reduce down to a place where the pack will not be damaged by the cooler temperatures and the act of charging should bring the pack temps up allowing for rates to increase without the risk of damage. The temps increasing due to charging occurring will sadly come too late to take advantage of the huge initial surge potential but it should help prevent excessive wear.
SeaM3White2021
model 3 LR 18 white/white ordered 1/21/21
I travel a fair bit (Seattle to Ohio and back plus a few trips to Colorado) and a CCS adapter would have been helpful a handful of times for us. Certainly worth the price for our use case.
So I wasn't interested in getting the new Tesla CCS adapter because there are lots of Superchargers in my area and along the routes I travel for trips. I never thought about getting any adapter, I haven't even used the included J1772 adapter yet. And paying $250 for the CCS adapter, then probably another $500 to $1k for the retrofit is not appealing to me at all, and Tesla isn't doing the retrofits until sometime next year. But now I'm kind of rethinking it, as having more charging options is always a good thing, especially when free charging specials happen. I liked it when Tesla gives free charging days now and then. What gas station does that for ICE vehicles? NONE! But I do wish we had one charging plug standard. Could you imagine if gas stations used different hose nozzles and we had to carry adapters to use them? Someone needs to pick the most reliable plug and make that the standard. I'm thinking Tesla's is smaller, pretty simple and works better than the others. Open up the cabinet of an EA charger and compare it to a Supercharger cabinet, the EA is a wiring mess while the Supercharger is clean and simple.
the DIY retrofit is less than $250 for the parts and super easy to install yourself.
There's a change.org campaign to get the fast charger connection be Tesla's and not one of the other bulky connections.
Msjulie
Active Member
I used to think that would be a good idea, it sure is more elegant but feels like that ship has sailed world-wide
I absolutely hate that CCS is the standard and not the Tesla connector. I think Tesla did this to themselves by not making thir connector open and non-proprietary and offering it to anyone wanting to use it. By keeping it locked down they killed their superior connector themselves.
Maybe they could reverse this by fully opening it up now while still offering some CCS ability at their chargers. Allowing the other auto makers to make future cars using the Tesla connector would be a big selling point since Tesla Superchargers are the best DCFC options hands down.
Maybe they could reverse this by fully opening it up now while still offering some CCS ability at their chargers. Allowing the other auto makers to make future cars using the Tesla connector would be a big selling point since Tesla Superchargers are the best DCFC options hands down.
israndy
Supercharger Hunter
This is only the Second round of charger standards. Likely we will need another one when we get to 5 min charging and big pickups and vans. Perhaps the Megacharger will become the final standard
Though we see how painful and slow going to USB-C has been (created in 2014) and that wasn't even on a $50K+ piece of equipment or dealing with changing out an insane amount of money worth of charging installations. I'm pretty sure the only reason Tesla is adding CCS now is because they are legally obligated to do so with all the gov funding they accepted to increase charging installs.
If CCS changes I think it would require some drastic need brought by a new technology that is impossible to do otherwise and even then it will probably take 10+ years to fully implement after the need is created.
The only way I can still see going around this is if Tesla opens up their current connectors and maybe even directly subsidizes their use or a gov mandate is made.
Yes, but some have been throwing codes and I'd rather have a Tesla approved retrofit done when using a Tesla adapter.
Apart from for 4 sites in California what funding have they accepted?
M109Rider
Active Member
What codes have been thrown. I’m planning on doing this retrofit. Would be curious to know how many are getting these errors, and possible reasons why ?
android04
Active Member
There are none. I know of two that didn't work right away due to not assembling the wiring harness connector correctly (it was sold as a DIY kit that one had to assemble the pins into). Those were easily fixed.
israndy
Supercharger Hunter
Exactly. It is the Tesla CCS ECU, the only diff is that the port on the older Model 3s is not heated and the temp sensors are different. Both issues are taken care of by the bundle of wires that the older 3s need. And the worst that can happen is that Tesla releases their OFFICIAL retrofit and it has some cool feature and you feel you have to spend another $140 on it. More likely they come out with a software update for the older cars and the bundle of wires can be removed.
Shame that TMC closed down the thread where people were supporting each other on this issue w/o any thought or examination of why they did it
Shame that TMC closed down the thread where people were supporting each other on this issue w/o any thought or examination of why they did it
I did the retrofit of the new charging ECU. The main issue is having the doors and trunk open before disconnecting the relay for the main battery otherwise you can lock yourself out. I had an error code to start and once I did the software update from Tesla, it works fine with CCS charging now, The free charging at EA charging stations is nice as well.
