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I travel a fair bit (Seattle to Ohio and back plus a few trips to Colorado) and a CCS adapter would have been helpful a handful of times for us. Certainly worth the price for our use case.I'm sure this has been beaten to death but for those of you who are buying it, What are your use cases that justify it? Personally, I live in the northeast where we have pretty good supercharger coverage so I don't see myself finding this useful but I'm curious to hear where in NA there's a good CCS network without a good SC network
then probably another $500 to $1k for the retrofit
There's a change.org campaign to get the fast charger connection be Tesla's and not one of the other bulky connections.So I wasn't interested in getting the new Tesla CCS adapter because there are lots of Superchargers in my area and along the routes I travel for trips. I never thought about getting any adapter, I haven't even used the included J1772 adapter yet. And paying $250 for the CCS adapter, then probably another $500 to $1k for the retrofit is not appealing to me at all, and Tesla isn't doing the retrofits until sometime next year. But now I'm kind of rethinking it, as having more charging options is always a good thing, especially when free charging specials happen. I liked it when Tesla gives free charging days now and then. What gas station does that for ICE vehicles? NONE! But I do wish we had one charging plug standard. Could you imagine if gas stations used different hose nozzles and we had to carry adapters to use them? Someone needs to pick the most reliable plug and make that the standard. I'm thinking Tesla's is smaller, pretty simple and works better than the others. Open up the cabinet of an EA charger and compare it to a Supercharger cabinet, the EA is a wiring mess while the Supercharger is clean and simple.
I used to think that would be a good idea, it sure is more elegant but feels like that ship has sailed world-wideThere's a change.org campaign to get the fast charger connection be Tesla's and not one of the other bulky connections.
Sadly, yes.I used to think that would be a good idea, it sure is more elegant but feels like that ship has sailed world-wide
Though we see how painful and slow going to USB-C has been (created in 2014) and that wasn't even on a $50K+ piece of equipment or dealing with changing out an insane amount of money worth of charging installations. I'm pretty sure the only reason Tesla is adding CCS now is because they are legally obligated to do so with all the gov funding they accepted to increase charging installs.I also think that current CCS plug will be replaced in not so far future. Just like USB-C is now the new usb standard, ccs will also evolve.
Yes, but some have been throwing codes and I'd rather have a Tesla approved retrofit done when using a Tesla adapter.the DIY retrofit is less than $250 for the parts and super easy to install yourself.
Apart from for 4 sites in California what funding have they accepted?I'm pretty sure the only reason Tesla is adding CCS now is because they are legally obligated to do so with all the gov funding they accepted to increase charging installs.
As with VHS over Betamax …I used to think that would be a good idea, it sure is more elegant but feels like that ship has sailed world-wide
What codes have been thrown. I’m planning on doing this retrofit. Would be curious to know how many are getting these errors, and possible reasons why ?Yes, but some have been throwing codes and I'd rather have a Tesla approved retrofit done when using a Tesla adapter.
There are none. I know of two that didn't work right away due to not assembling the wiring harness connector correctly (it was sold as a DIY kit that one had to assemble the pins into). Those were easily fixed.What codes have been thrown. I’m planning on doing this retrofit. Would be curious to know how many are getting these errors, and possible reasons why ?
Am I reading your license plate right? One Sh!t? If so, that is funny!UPS dropped off my CCS adapter today. I had previously set up an account with Electrify America, but have never stopped there. Figured I ought to test it.
Unlike Tesla's Supercharger network, which knows instantly who you are when you plug in and just automatically bills the card you've got associated with the account... the Electrify America mobile app has you explicitly load a predetermined amount into your account. This despite your having a credit card associated with the account. Kinda like pulling into a gas station in an ICE car, wanting to pay with cash, and having to calculate how much energy you want to buy and how much it's gonna cost, so you can pre-pay for it.
So before I left I dutifully loaded $40 into the account.
Ambient temps were in the mid-60's (Fahrenheit), my pack temp was 80.6, and I was only a a couple miles from the Walmart where the EA chargers were located. I didn't want to DC Fast Charge at that low a temp. Not because I wanted a hotter pack so I would see greater throughput - I could care less about that - but because of battery health.
Fortunately, there was a Tesla Supercharger a couple hundred feet from the EA location, so I just set the Nav for that. Preconditioning started immediately and the pack began coming up to temp fairly quickly. When I plugged into the EA charger a few minutes later, my pack was about 100F.
Interestingly, the EA charger never prompted me to ID myself or pay for anything. It just started charging once I plugged in, just as a Tesla Supercharger would. I assume that has something to do with the free promotion EA is reportedly running. My guess is you'd normally have to go through several steps in the mobile app before it'd start sending electrons.
It all worked perfectly fine. I stopped the charge after receiving 5 kWh.
The adapter seems very well built. Heavier than you'd expect. And it's pretty painless to use.
I'd venture that its biggest weakness is the inability to directly manage pack temps. You don't want to DC Fast Charge into a pack that's not pretty well heated. And since most of us who buy this adapter do so as a backup if a Tesla Supercharger isn't around... navigating to a nearby Supercharger like I did isn't going to be an option. You can, of course, nav to a more distant Supercharger. But that may not help your pack temp all that much (I'll note that when the "preconditioning battery" alert comes on your screen that doesn't mean your battery is being actively heated. Oftentimes that heating doesn't trigger until you're much closer to the Supercharger location.)
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