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I think this only happened because the previous model S and X was on the list originally, but then taken off. In this case, model 3 is not on the list so not sure if the ministry will accept orders made before.
There are a lot of ‘if’ ‘ ands’ and ‘buts’ surrounding the rebate for the Model 3. We can speculate all we want. I made my decision to configure based on no rebate. If the stars align then awesome!
I really feel for those who need to know their rebate status prior to ordering. Totally understandable. It’s a big chunk of change. The opening of First Production for Canada and the election timing couldn’t be worse. Compounding that is the Model 3 not being on the list yet. It should be just a rubber stamp formality unfortunately it’s a bureaucratic rubber stamp.
I really feel for those who need to know their rebate status prior to ordering. Totally understandable. It’s a big chunk of change. The opening of First Production for Canada and the election timing couldn’t be worse. Compounding that is the Model 3 not being on the list yet. It should be just a rubber stamp formality unfortunately it’s a bureaucratic rubber stamp.
Falkirk
Member
I'm counting on it even though I'm not waiting to see it. I sold it to my wife like this, if it doesn't get the rebate we could always sell it at cost or better I'm sure with the waiting list going on for it and pick up a more reasonable priced car that is on the list...but I'm really hoping things work out and I keep my Tesla!
Bluewish
Member
navguy12
Active Member
Mike Harris eliminated photo radar eight business days after he was elected, and did so with the stroke of a pen. YMMV
tombar
Member
I respectively disagree about the timeline to kill EV rebate.... This is an easy one to kill and can be done with the stroke of minister of transport or finance pen, no legislation/debate necessary. Just M3 rebate applications alone (not counting PHEVs, other BEVs) will be hundreds of millions (e.g. say starting with just 7,000 M3 orders (if AWD is opened up) = $98,000,000). I can hear Doug Ford now "we're stopping the Liberal spending waste as we promised". Another factor is the fact the allotted funding for EV rebate program may run out of funding sooner than the fall. See post 169 above
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Dolphindefense
Member
I emailed the MTO and got the canned response from Fran and then I replied and asked:
“If I take delivery of the car and the car is not added to the list yet, would I still be eligible for the rebate?”
Fran responded with:
“Please continue to check the site for updates.”
This makes me think that adding M3 to the list is imminent and before the first delivery is taken given that Fran didn’t really answer my question. Just speculating
“If I take delivery of the car and the car is not added to the list yet, would I still be eligible for the rebate?”
Fran responded with:
“Please continue to check the site for updates.”
This makes me think that adding M3 to the list is imminent and before the first delivery is taken given that Fran didn’t really answer my question. Just speculating
navguy12
Active Member
You know, it would be neat to corner Douggie into answering how many long term morbidity costs will be added to the provincial health care budget in years to come because he is stunting the growth of EV use in Ontario.
Of course, those morbidity costs don't include lost GDP.......or actual quality of life issues for family members of affected individuals.
tombar
Member
unfortunately Douggie doesn't actually "answer" any questions about "how" he's going to do anything he says he's going to do...cause he hasn't got a clue... he's just plays same recorded message that his base want to hear"
... Sounds like someone down south that used this tactic and it worked
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Tony_YYZ
Tezler Guru
Depends on how the transfer of power is negotiated between the parties, but that would typically be a couple of weeks after the election. The legislature wouldn't be recalled until September, but as others have mentioned, the EV program rates could be altered by cabinet order very quickly.
Having said that, there is a complication. The money from the cap and trade program goes into a fund that by law has to be spent on environmental initiates. If the EV rebate is cancelled by itself, without legislative changes, the PCs would have to find another program to put the money in.
My guess is that an EV rebate cancellation wouldn't happen immediately and that they would wait for a larger set of legislative changes to take care of the complications That's all that is, though, is a guess. The rebate is at risk at any point past mid-June.
Just received this follow up email from my MPP:
Good afternoon, Mr. X
Thank you for your email.
We have been advised that Tesla has applied for the 2018 Tesla Model 3 to be added to the Electric and Hydrogen Vehicles Incentive Program (EHVIP) list of eligible vehicles. The Ministry is currently undertaking a review process. Once a vehicle has been accepted to the program, the list of eligible vehicles along with the amount of the incentive will be updated on the EHVIP website at Eligible Electric Vehicles.
Kind regards,
Caroline
Office of MPP Mike Colle
Eglinton-Lawrence
Good afternoon, Mr. X
Thank you for your email.
We have been advised that Tesla has applied for the 2018 Tesla Model 3 to be added to the Electric and Hydrogen Vehicles Incentive Program (EHVIP) list of eligible vehicles. The Ministry is currently undertaking a review process. Once a vehicle has been accepted to the program, the list of eligible vehicles along with the amount of the incentive will be updated on the EHVIP website at Eligible Electric Vehicles.
Kind regards,
Caroline
Office of MPP Mike Colle
Eglinton-Lawrence
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