navguy12
Active Member
They have openly stated they want to tear up green energy act contracts.
It doesn't matter that only 10% of all money paid for generation in Ontario goes to green energy act generators.
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It doesn't matter that only 10% of all money paid for generation in Ontario goes to green energy act generators.
Tony_YYZ
Tezler Guru
Tesla has a insiderhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/myrans/
I already tried reaching out to him the day I started this thread. He has not responded to my emails.
If the rebate gets cancelled after the election it will be better sweet, that said I'm more than happy to pay full price for the car.
I assumption is that Dougie get the election, but who knows... Election has too many variables. Certainly Ppl like me not usually bother to go to the poll stop, will certainly go this time just for my rebate (may be some old people just for their drugs? who knows.
That is definitely a concern. Tesla is considered a Luxury Brand now. And was used in the PC debates and will make it into the Ontario debates. Although logic says that a Hybrid Chrysiler Pacifica that gives you 53 kms of EV range and has 16kwh battery should not be on that list. The users of that car will mostly drive it in gas mode.
I, as well as a couple others in the Canadian Model 3 Owner's Group on FB messaged Doug Ford's verified page to see what answer we could get, this answer is the same we all got, and it's more promising than a "We just plan to scrap it". We had a couple different people ask in a couple different ways, and the answer was always "We plan to keep it, but not for expensive EVs"- as always take a politician's answer with a grain of salt.
As much as i absolutely love Tesla, I don't think the Model 3 justifies a $85,000 price. To me, the rebate is essential to bringing the cost down to its correct value.
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jkirkwood001
Active Member
OMGoodness, I was so excited when I visited the showroom on the weekend, I didn't even think to check the VIN! Not that it matters I guess, like you say. But all my analysis skills went out the window!!
tombar
Member
I'd suggest folks don't 'poke the sleeping bear' too much...I, as well as a couple others in the Canadian Model 3 Owner's Group on FB messaged Doug Ford's verified page to see what answer we could get, this answer is the same we all got, and it's more promising than a "We just plan to scrap it". We had a couple different people ask in a couple different ways, and the answer was always "We plan to keep it, but not for expensive EVs"- as always take a politician's answer with a grain of salt.
. If Conseratives dig into M3 reservation estimates for Ontario, whatever slim hope there is will likely be killed. Having said that I'm sceptical Doug means what he said " I would like to keep.....", he just wants your vote.
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Same here.I love the car so much, if rebate canceled ( hopefully not to zero). I will reduce my configuration to balance my budget. I am thinking of forgetting AWD, EAP and Wheel.
I, as well as a couple others in the Canadian Model 3 Owner's Group on FB messaged Doug Ford's verified page to see what answer we could get, this answer is the same we all got, and it's more promising than a "We just plan to scrap it". We had a couple different people ask in a couple different ways, and the answer was always "We plan to keep it, but not for expensive EVs"- as always take a politician's answer with a grain of salt.
good point. Liberals will continue to support the program though. Just saying.I'd suggest folks don't 'poke the sleeping bear' too much...
The available Model3 is the one with the longest range and 5 passenger. This car is the best in class of all the ones from various manufacturing. If they do not let Model 3 in the mix they pretty much have to scrap the whole program and that will not sit well with most manufacturers
sakimano
Active Member
AWD, PUP, LR, AP = about $80,000 + tax I thought
For that you get a car that performs like an Audi S4 or Mercedes C43. Those are $70,000 cars that use gasoline so when you do the math, the Model 3 kind of lines up nicely even without the rebate. When you factor in better depreciation on electric vehicles, you're probably ahead of the game. When you get $14,000 for it, that's making it a tough case for something like the S4/340/C43
The aspect of these cars that people forget is performance. To match the performance of an AWD LR tesla model 3 with a fossil car you're looking at the mid-level performance versions of the germans. not the RS/M/AMG proper cars, but the S4/340/C43.
A P version of a model 3 will match up with an RS4/5 or an M3/4 and C63. Those are $90,000 cars. The P version of the model 3 will likely push close to that range, maybe more like $100,000 all in. Personally I think the P will be a package, not a different car. i.e. you can opt for the $19,000 performance package including ludicrous mode, better brakes, air. This lets the cars qualify for restrictive gov't programs that are based on MSRP before options.
sakimano
Active Member
anyone stop hating Doug Ford after reading that?I, as well as a couple others in the Canadian Model 3 Owner's Group on FB messaged Doug Ford's verified page to see what answer we could get, this answer is the same we all got, and it's more promising than a "We just plan to scrap it". We had a couple different people ask in a couple different ways, and the answer was always "We plan to keep it, but not for expensive EVs"- as always take a politician's answer with a grain of salt.
SmartElectric
Active Member
I'd suggest folks don't 'poke the sleeping bear' too much...
So you are counting on the conservative elected officials to be ignorant of the situation, and this hope would then allow you to vote for them? #sad
Maybe he's voting on other issues, maybe his local mpp is doing a great job and is a Conservative or the liberal in his riding isn't up to his standard, maybe EVs aren't top of his mind, maybe he works in an industry that the current provincial government hasn't done a good job regulating. But still wants 14k off his car.
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