steve841
Active Member
Im sure it's just like my cell phone which promises 5 days run time ... ... and have never seen more than 18 hours ..
Probably best conditions vs real life ...... the magic 300 miles vs 265 comes to mind....
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Im sure it's just like my cell phone which promises 5 days run time ... ... and have never seen more than 18 hours ..
Probably best conditions vs real life ...... the magic 300 miles vs 265 comes to mind....
Precisely! I couldn't be happier after 3 weeks with my S...and I do recognize that there are things that could be improved. But the gestalt is so very satisfying that it trumps everything else.
I'm pretty happy to hear that and slightly more reassured. Thanks. However, it is only when I think of the quirks and the 100k price of the car do I start to question it all. Honestly, I'm excited to find out if I made the right choice or not. Model S 1.0 vs 24month Volt lease then Model S 2.0.
How about all of the other $100k + cars that you need to WARM UP! terrible quirk! I'd imagine there are plenty of other 'bad' things about many other cars costing $57k and above. The only problem I had with the S was - don't open the pano at 85 mph ;>
steve841
Active Member
I guess the problem was more trying to close it at ~85 mph. It just didn't seal properly until we slowed down and re-closed it. That was in a test drive car.
I have not experienced any catastrophic problems with my Model S; just a ton of small ones. The software does not seem ready for prime-time (to be expected with a Rev A vehicle). Over the past week, I have had to reboot the touchscreen everyday- as it starts to get sluggish or freeze. Hopefully the next round of software updates fixes these problems. The latest update actually made my car worse- from a speed & usability perspective.
Hmmm. I haven't had to reboot my touch screen even once in the four weeks I've had my S, and the latest Update hasn't caused me any trouble. I wonder if you have a unique set of issues? Really, the only trouble the touchscreen gives me is with trying to select small targets on web pages.
ChadS
Last tank of gas: March 2009
FM radio didn't work a couple of times; my phone and Slacker did.
The Garmin nav screen on the dash (different than the Google maps on the 17" screen) didn't show up in the last rev, but it now back with the current rev.
That's all I've seen; fortunately everything else has worked fine for me.
The Garmin nav screen on the dash (different than the Google maps on the 17" screen) didn't show up in the last rev, but it now back with the current rev.
That's all I've seen; fortunately everything else has worked fine for me.
THIS is what I was afraid of, the frustration. I'm too old to want to put up with bugs and restarts, and don't want to have to restart (maybe 4-5x per year would be okay). I had enough of that BS with Windows XP SP 5000. I wonder why your experience is different from that of many others?
I'd rather wait for a car than accept accept a premature delivery of a car with bugs.
Todd Burch
14-Year Member
Pguerra, did you really expect that there would be no bugs? We are in the *VERY* early weeks of everyday software usage. The majority of issues will be worked out over the coming months. But if you expect less than 4 or 5 restarts a year...you'll probably never be happy with even Model S 10.0. New features continuously come out. And with new features come new bugs...
mknox
Well-Known Member
...as long as the bugs and problems aren't safety or drivetrain performance-related, yes. I would not want to see an update disable ABS or cause the car to do things like shut down in traffic.
Obviously I expect bugs, and that's why I said I can tolerate 4-5 restarts / yr. But at some point, it becomes too much. That tolerable limit is a personal thing, however I think most people here would agree that a restart everyday is too much. When you throw in the things like cupholders and visors and door issues, etc, at some point the car would be deemed unreliable (or at least not considered a good value) by most reasonable people.
I still have faith I'll be pleasantly surprised however. We'll see.
I have only had to restart maybe once a week so far. Still too often but I'd expect that to improve with future versions of the software. If you need more time for things to settle out, maybe they'll let you give up your Signature spot and go back to your original Production slot. By then, the software should be more stable.
Thanks for your input. I guess I can handle once a week for now, and I'm looking forward to taking delivery of the vehicle. But I just want to make sure I made the right decision over leasing the Volt for 2 years then getting Model S 2.0.
Tesla is going to have to step it up soon b/c word gets out quick in the Internet era, and I can't imagine people lining up for Model X or Model S with incomplete software and a $100k price tag.
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Well, okay, maybe it won't be so bad according to Motor Trend:
http://green.autoblog.com/2012/10/26/motor-trend-suggests-tesla-model-s-may-be-most-important/
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Ben W
Chess Grandmaster (Supervised)
The camera/HomeLink overlap is still a problem for me with Firmware 1.15.8. What firmware version do you have?
I think you'll be very happy with it. The Volt is also a very good car from what I hear but a much different kind of car. There will be some hopefully minor growing pains with being so close to the front of the line but they should only improve over time. By the time the Model X comes out, we're talking 2 years of refinement on the software so I'd expect these issues to be much less common. You'll get to enjoy one of the most fun to drive sedans on the planet for 2 years instead of waiting for 2 years so can think of it that way.
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I have the same version. When I back up, I see the camera image and can still click on the Homelink icon. Can you take a picture of what you are seeing?
To be clear, the Model S is by far the best car on the market today. The problems are minor ones; (i.e. web browser crashing, slow keyboard, google maps not loading properly, google maps freezing etc). To put this in perspective I have been in the automotive industry for 30 years and have worked for a variety of car manufacturers. The Model S is a complete change from any other vehicle on the market, and the problems are VERY minor when compared to how great the car is. This car is simply unbelievable. I am one of the cheapest guys around, and this car is worth every penny and dare I say a bargain at twice the price. Sure the interior is not as fancy as some of its ICE competitors, or some normal features that are present on cars 1/4 the price are missing on the Model S; but at the end of the day this car is all about the driving experience; simply amazing. I will take the Model S- as it sits now- even if that means I have to reboot frequently and deal with some bugs in the software. I am sure Tesla will figure it out, as these problems do not hamper how great the car is in the whole scheme of things. I was the biggest skeptic prior to taking delivery of my car, and I have done a complete 180 after owning the car for a few weeks.
The biggest drawback, in my opinion is the sales model that Tesla has implemented. In major cities it does not work nearly as well as it does in smaller towns. Tesla needs to re-think this strategy. The Delivery Specialists seem to be overworked, and the supply chain is a complete mess.
The biggest drawback, in my opinion is the sales model that Tesla has implemented. In major cities it does not work nearly as well as it does in smaller towns. Tesla needs to re-think this strategy. The Delivery Specialists seem to be overworked, and the supply chain is a complete mess.
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