This thread is averaging one post every three minutes. What happens when the posts start coming faster than I can read? Does anyone else think about these things?
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Performance Upgrade Price Change!
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roguenode
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I called Tesla and was told they are marking my account as wanting the refund and that Tesla is working to get the backend setup to see who wants refunds vs unlimited supercharging. Those that elect for the refund will receive a check. I was told they have no idea when that might be.
I wonder which will come first, a refund or my spoiler
I wonder which will come first, a refund or my spoiler
does that mean that technically there is no more Model 3Perfomance with 18 inch aero wheels available?
exactly. but I am set to take delivery of that config on Saturday of next week. Yesterday I was on hold for another issue as the news broke so I asked and they said they will change my Vin to a performance model 3 with performance package but I am not holding my breath. so far no update on my account. I did not hit proceed on my account yet as I don't want them to draft a MVPA without this being correct first
That's bad news.
The range of the performance model with 18 inch aeros was the same as the LR Model 3 AWD.
In other words, if it's range only, last week brought two downgrades:
1. No more LR RWD
2. No more P3 AWD with 18 inch aeros
I can't see anybody who has a charging setup at home not opting for 5k refund. I mean I'm glad to have free SC but i'll never come close to spending 5k on it if i have to pay.
TANGO SUKKA
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Yup. It's a bummer for those of us who anted up the serious money. We bought two, so that's $10K of pain. But here's why I'm not complaining. And why i still regard the massive cash outlay on these two cars as about the best money I've ever spent.
1) It makes the car an even more fantastic value for those who might not yet be all in on EV and Tesla's dominance of EV tech, attracting more buyers, and making the choice between the top Model 3 and all the other elite sports sedans (that's Alfa, BMW, Lexus, Infinti, and Mercedes) even more of a slam dunk.
2) It's part of the evidence that Tesla is frankly pretty generous as a corporation particularly relative to other automakers - perhaps even to a fault (after all, until recently not making any money), and this could not have happened unless they were recording the first large profitability of their short existence. Most other manufacturers posed to virtually take over the premium sport sedan class would have RAISED prices.
3) Model Y is in a position to similarly dominate the premium midsize SUV class, which is still Tesla's biggest sales target as it constitutes the largest selling vehicle type in the US. Have to see how good it turns out to be, but I'm betting it's a homerun.
4) We still got the free lifetime supercharging on two vehicles, which I figure is worth, well, just about $10K minimum. So that's a draw.
5) Consistent with #2, Tesla may rebate or refund to existing orders that $5k.
The big picture is that this is part of Tesla's remaking of the automotive landscape in a way that almost no one (except those in Tesla from the outset and a few other cognoscenti) would have ever predicted. So, again, big picture, it's all good. Enjoy the ride guys. We are all part of the greatest revolution in transportation technology . . . . . ever.
The move is so random. At the very least this should have been announced with the Mid Range and other changes last week. Proves futile in trying to time any price changes.
I still think the front nose change on the MS hurt the most. This is one probably second, then the move from AP1 -> AP2.
I still think the front nose change on the MS hurt the most. This is one probably second, then the move from AP1 -> AP2.
P3D_Denver
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P3D_Denver
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What percentage of the population can buy two performance Model 3s?
If Tesla wants to pull off unlimited bull *sugar* they can stay boutique and sell Model S, Model X, and Roadsters.
When you swim into the mass market pool you deal with the mass market customers.
I’m the farthest thing from a communist but those who don’t care about losing 10K off two cars can afford to lose 10K off two cars.
There are disconnects between
-TSLA shareholders
-New to Tesla
-Old to Tesla
-Rich people
-Less rich people
-Legitimate beefs
-Whiney bitching
-Those happy for others (almost no one is here)
-Those indifferent for others
-Those resentful of others
It’s not easy to manage all that but we should at least realize all those people exist.
P3D_Denver
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Can’t speak of the front nose change, but I got the AP1 -> AP2 hurt and I lost a night of sleep over it. I also got hurt from this P3D+ adjustment (not really but according to you) and I actually didn’t feel much even before he said he’ll refund it. To me the AP1 -> AP2 hurt way more simply because the car was obsolete instantly back then with no retrofit option.
The P3D+, not so much, it’s still the same car.
I think people just expected their outrage to last much longer.
This may sound facetious, but I think there's too much truth in it.
MarkS22
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I’m not sure what this has to do with implying I left off “arguably” to dramatically change the meaning of his quote.
I made exactly the same argument as you last night that $5,000 might not seem worth it to some people, but it might make financial sense to Tesla. Both in charging costs and lowering Supercharger infrastructure costs.
The only reason I doubt it’s a huge savings is that they’re not offering this $5000 back to all Free Supercharger owners, only a relatively small number of Performance 3s.
P3D_Denver
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So situation normal at Tesla. Never a dull moment.
I’m supposed to take delivery Monday, and already have my MVPA, which shows the old price. So I call sales and actually get someone at the Costa Mesa office where I am taking delivery, and ask them if they are going to send out a new MVPA to reflect the new price. He actually said no, Tesla doesn’t make changes, he must be new, and that I owe the old price. I actually laughed.
This will make sense for those who have an In-n-Out hamburger near them and frequent the establishment.
So, if I get in the long line in the parking lot to buy my burger, and the clean cut kid comes out with his mobile ordering machine and takes my order for a number 1 animal style, and then as I wait in line and drive by the sign with prices on it, and they’ve lowered them, that I am then supposed to pay the higher price at the window, and then still wait for the burger at the pick-up window further down the line? He said yes, or start over.
I said for $5,468 ($468 difference because of tax and reg fee), I’d do the loop, not pay, not pick up my animal style combo and get in line again, wouldn’t you. He said yes to that. So he said he would have someone call me back.
That didn’t/has not happened yet, so I just called back and got a different person who said that they would have it figured out by delivery. I said, good, because I’m not handing over the money until it’s figured out, and they agreed.
Then again, if I delay another few weeks maybe I’ll get air suspension???
Never a dull moment. In all seriousness, this has got to causing massive buyer’s fatigue.
I’m supposed to take delivery Monday, and already have my MVPA, which shows the old price. So I call sales and actually get someone at the Costa Mesa office where I am taking delivery, and ask them if they are going to send out a new MVPA to reflect the new price. He actually said no, Tesla doesn’t make changes, he must be new, and that I owe the old price. I actually laughed.
This will make sense for those who have an In-n-Out hamburger near them and frequent the establishment.
So, if I get in the long line in the parking lot to buy my burger, and the clean cut kid comes out with his mobile ordering machine and takes my order for a number 1 animal style, and then as I wait in line and drive by the sign with prices on it, and they’ve lowered them, that I am then supposed to pay the higher price at the window, and then still wait for the burger at the pick-up window further down the line? He said yes, or start over.
I said for $5,468 ($468 difference because of tax and reg fee), I’d do the loop, not pay, not pick up my animal style combo and get in line again, wouldn’t you. He said yes to that. So he said he would have someone call me back.
That didn’t/has not happened yet, so I just called back and got a different person who said that they would have it figured out by delivery. I said, good, because I’m not handing over the money until it’s figured out, and they agreed.
Then again, if I delay another few weeks maybe I’ll get air suspension???
Never a dull moment. In all seriousness, this has got to causing massive buyer’s fatigue.
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Lose lose situation. I’m in Econ and need to solve adverse selection issues when needing to decide price points and promotions.
Those who won’t spend 5000 in supercharging - say spends 1500. 5000 credit is a 3500 loss to Tesla.
Those who spend 7500 in supercharging will know to keep supercharging. 2500 loss to Tesla.
The latter example is even more dastardly because people will feel compelled to use SC more than they normally would have. See “tragedy of the commons”.
To use a medical analogy, the healthy people have left the insurance market.
that's a pretty hostile and discrediting post. Maybe you should take some of your own advice
