Hans Niemann would disagree.Er, chess was “solved” years ago. Took a lot of computer power though but became unbeatable by a human. Still want dumb cruise control.
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Hans Niemann would disagree.Er, chess was “solved” years ago. Took a lot of computer power though but became unbeatable by a human. Still want dumb cruise control.
Optimal play, yes, but not the entire game. We are a long way from solving the whole game…as we are from “solving” FSD.Er, chess was “solved” years ago. Took a lot of computer power though but became unbeatable by a human. Still want dumb cruise control.
…or TACC and phantom braking, apparently.Optimal play, yes, but not the entire game. We are a long way from solving the whole game…as we are from “solving” FSD.
When coming to signals at intersections, unless someone is just ahead of you and keeps driving through, your car will brake unless you press the accelerator to indicate you agree it's safe to proceed. You should have gotten a pop up telling you this shortly before the intersection. So the car behaved as designed, just needed you to confirm via the accelerator. Again, if you're following another car that goes through first you should be able to cruise through too without doing anything.Had my first experience with phantom braking last night. Was coming home from my son's hockey practice on a two lane dark road. Thought I'd try out the auto steer or whatever the thing is called when you tap down twice quickly and it keeps you within the lanes. Was coming up to a green light going ~80km/h, as I was getting into the intersection the car braked hard, scared the *sugar* out of both myself and my son. Thank God there was no one behind us.
WTF Tesla?
This was my experience exactly, same conditions in Utah and several (many) times. Put in a ticket and was advised they found no hardware issues and the software is beta so.... Now much worse than before the vision only update.We had a slew of phantom breaking events on Hwy 395 in the eastern Sierra a couple weeks ago. It's a flat road down a valley and straight as a could be. Little to no traffic we'd be coming up on a cross road w/no traffic on it and the MY would break for no reason whatsoever. This was with stock cruise control on and "auto emergency breaking" option turned off.
I set up a service appointment and got a call from Tesla basically saying they're aware of the issue and working on it. Well it seems they've been working on it for quite a while, to no avail. The guy asked me to report each incident by pressing the voice commands button and saying "Bug Report", where you are and what happened. So it would seem that we're still their beta testers and that's not something I signed up for. I did file a report with NHTSA about this. Fortunately these phantom breaking events don't happen on drives locally or up or down the coast.
The stock adaptive cruise control (which is what we were using) should not be "beta."This was my experience exactly, same conditions in Utah and several (many) times. Put in a ticket and was advised they found no hardware issues and the software is beta so.... Now much worse than before the vision only update.
We were driving down 395 in the eastern Sierra, no cars ahead of us and none in the oncoming lanes (separated by a wide median) and the car would brake hard 200 yds or so ahead of an intersection with no traffic signals.When coming to signals at intersections, unless someone is just ahead of you and keeps driving through, your car will brake unless you press the accelerator to indicate you agree it's safe to proceed. You should have gotten a pop up telling you this shortly before the intersection. So the car behaved as designed, just needed you to confirm via the accelerator. Again, if you're following another car that goes through first you should be able to cruise through too without doing anything.
Understood, my response to pbcsd was specifically re intersections with signals.We were driving down 395 in the eastern Sierra, no cars ahead of us and none in the oncoming lanes (separated by a wide median) and the car would brake hard 200 yds or so ahead of an intersection with no traffic signals.
But it indeed is per the Owner's Manual -The stock adaptive cruise control (which is what we were using) should not be "beta."
Well it's a beta feature you can't turn off as phantom breaking happened to us even when we consistently disabled emergency auto braking after each charging session while on the road.But it indeed is per the Owner's Manual -
Note
Traffic-Aware Cruise Control is a BETA feature.
I have the same problem on my 2023 MY LR. Just on cruise control. Big rigs on two Lane, shallows on a clean sunny day (cold out). This all happened on a trip from LA to Boise. Happened about 4 times each going to and coming back to LA. Luckily there was nobody close behind us.Juse received my Model.Y 4 days ago and it has the problem of fantom braking with oncoming large vehicles on 2 lane roads
If you have AP, cruise control is TACC (Traffic Aware Cruise Control) which is just Autopilot with you steering. Phantom breaking will be the same between those modes.I have the same problem on my 2023 MY LR. Just on cruise control. Big rigs on two Lane, shallows on a clean sunny day (cold out). This all happened on a trip from LA to Boise. Happened about 4 times each going to and coming back to LA. Luckily there was nobody close behind us.
Hope Tesla fits this?
It seems to the problem that it slams on the brakes when it is in a situation which can be best described asIf you have AP, cruise control is TACC (Traffic Aware Cruise Control) which is just Autopilot with you steering. Phantom breaking will be the same between those modes.
This has been a problem for at least 5 years, don't hold your breath for a fix any time soon. If it was easy they would have done it years ago.
Thanks enemji. Your #2 certainly fits the instances of phantom braking that I experienced. And that is a problem that needs to be fixed.It seems to the problem that it slams on the brakes when it is in a situation which can be best described as
1. Not enough information to make a decision
2. No change in scenery ie lonesome roads with no activity. It slams on because that is also not expected in general.