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Because they are attempting to use your phone as your car key without addressing many of the predictable issues this system would create. They'll fix it when they offer the fob. That's the only way to make the entry system fully reliable.If you have two Tesla’s in your account, the phone key will only work if the app is switched to the correct vehicle. I find this very annoying. Why can’t Tesla fix this?
So it remains 100% opening success rate, with 1 time it took a long time. and then 1 nonstart issue, resolved with BT toggle. That 1 nonstart issue was the first problem since June 5.
So I did a little bit of experimentation, and at least with iPhone, it seems that the phone key is very susceptible to signal attenuation.
The simplest way to see this in effect is to put the phone in the back pocket of my jeans and stand facing the car directly; in my own experimentation, the signal is weak enough that the car doesn't notice and I cannot unlock the doors. Turning so that I'm no longer a giant bag of water blocking the Bluetooth signal beween my phone and the B pillar, the car sees the phone again and connects.
After doing this, I realized that all the times I've been unable to unlock my M3, I've had my messenger bag with my phone in it slung around behind me. Now that I swing it to carry on the side as I approach the car, I've had 100% success unlocking.
This isn't to say it fixes all problems—not like offering a key fob would—but it might alleviate them somewhat.
The human sized waterbag attenuation issue is a problem with bluetooth. As a fob would be bluetooth as well, I don't think it would help in that respect.So I did a little bit of experimentation, and at least with iPhone, it seems that the phone key is very susceptible to signal attenuation.
The simplest way to see this in effect is to put the phone in the back pocket of my jeans and stand facing the car directly; in my own experimentation, the signal is weak enough that the car doesn't notice and I cannot unlock the doors. Turning so that I'm no longer a giant bag of water blocking the Bluetooth signal beween my phone and the B pillar, the car sees the phone again and connects.
After doing this, I realized that all the times I've been unable to unlock my M3, I've had my messenger bag with my phone in it slung around behind me. Now that I swing it to carry on the side as I approach the car, I've had 100% success unlocking.
This isn't to say it fixes all problems—not like offering a key fob would—but it might alleviate them somewhat.
That's been my thinking since the talk of a fob has started - it would still need to use Bluetooth. I'm sure the pairing issue might be a bit resolved, but I'm not convinced that it would be the immediate/100% solution people are looking for. I personally would rather the phone issue get better. As it stands, my Pixel XL only occasionally prefers I power on the screen or very rarely (deep sleep) unlock the phone. Getting it to not have to do that would be nice but not a deal breaker to need a fob I have to carry around.The human sized waterbag attenuation issue is a problem with bluetooth. As a fob would be bluetooth as well, I don't think it would help in that respect.
I don't recall hearing X owners complain about problems and their fob is BT. To be fair though I don't browse the X sub-forums so it could be full of threads complaining about it...The human sized waterbag attenuation issue is a problem with bluetooth. As a fob would be bluetooth as well, I don't think it would help in that respect.
I would say the Android 9.0 Pie update has really helped my Pixel 1. Getting the 26.3 update may have helped too. I can't really say because they both happened within a few days of each other. I haven't been on here complaining about the phone key in the past few weeks because it's actually working--almost to the point where I no long worry about the car unlocking. However, every once in a while I can't get into the car while dealing with my kids and grocery bags and it makes me curse the whole phone key thing again. The difference, though, is that I don't have to do anything on the phone like toggle Bluetooth or airplane mode to get it working. If I continue to hold the handle open, the connection gets made and it works within about 10-15 seconds.
I still have my Tasker profile to toggle Bluetooth on/off every hour, and battery optimization off for the Tesla app and every Bluetooth service on the phone. I'd estimate it's at 98-99% reliability now, which is much better than a few months ago. I'm been hoping for a fob for a while too, but if it continues to work like this, I might not bother. Not carrying any keys around is really nice.
Got the latest Tesla app (Android), and now I have a perma-notification for unlock/lock shortcuts. Read somewhere else that people are noticing phone key is now working much better. Can anyone confirm?
That would make sense, as the persistent notification would be able to ensure the background service that provides the 'key' continued running.
Does the persistent notification only pop if you are using phone key? I have my Moto X4 logged into my Tesla account, but no notification...This. On Android, the persistent notification applications are given high background task priority. This enables the Tesla app to avoid battery optimizations and other sleep modes, and ensure it's always listening on the BT connection. I'm virtually certain Tesla reengineered the Android app to do this to improve the phone key performance.
Seems to not appear on my Nougat phone, as far as I can tell persistent notifications are supported on Nougat (as other apps seem to use them). Curious why this is.This. On Android, the persistent notification applications are given high background task priority. This enables the Tesla app to avoid battery optimizations and other sleep modes, and ensure it's always listening on the BT connection. I'm virtually certain Tesla reengineered the Android app to do this to improve the phone key performance.
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Please add me to the list of those wishing that they had a key fob for their model 3. We have both an S and a 3. My wife drives the 3 and continually complains about the issues related to the phone and the card. This system is a pain in the rear compared to using the fob that came with the model s. It all seems "cool" in writing, but it is very cumbersome annoying and irksome to use in real life.
Dear Elon..... PLEASE offer us a key fob for the Model 3. I am tired of listening to my wife complain about it to me and our friends. She compliments the car and is a huge fan of the HVAC system, but somehow all discussions of the car revert back to the access problems. This is not good for me, for Tesla or for my TSLA stock!
thanks
CGW