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Did you ever get your alignment specs checked? If so, curious what your rears are set at camber and toe. Thanks.Amazing as it appears, the left tire, which appears to be in much worse condition, is holding air, while the right tire is leaking around the outer edges where the separation starting.View attachment 998759View attachment 998760View attachment 998761View attachment 998762View attachment 998763
I have 2 cases, but both resulted in giving credit (fraction of cost), not replacing tires at their cost.Can anyone share their Michelin case number? I am working with Michelin now and am concerned that they may deny my claim. I only need case numbers that resulted in Michelin replacing the rear 21” factory tires. Thanks so much!
Joe
In my case (2022 MS Plaid, ~11k miles) Michelin replaced the tires with my only cost being the mounting and balance at Discount Tire, perhaps $20-ish per tire IIRC?I have 2 cases, but both resulted in giving credit (fraction of cost), not replacing tires at their cost.
In my case (2022 MS Plaid, ~11k miles) Michelin replaced the tires with my only cost being the mounting and balance at Discount Tire, perhaps $20-ish per tire IIRC?
Tread was worn about 60%-ish but had 1-2 psi loss per week and tread separating at the inner sidewall on both rear tires.
I'm wondering if this is also less of an issue on 20" rims. I'm deciding what rims to get on my new car. I can get 21s for $1k locally without tires. Adds up to $4000 with tires and tpms sensors.It's factory lazy is what it is.
For those who really appreciate the best street tires on the market today for your 2021+ MS (OEM T2s), you install adjustable camber arms (or ghetto shims) else likely suffer through unusually rapid tire wear. It's totally normal to enjoy more than 20K+ miles on RWD PS4Ss whether OEM spec or off the shelf.
The root cause is Tesla's inane in-spec, non-adjustable rear camber range which is up to -2.75 degrees at MEDIUM height. When you default to low, negative camber gets even worse for wear!
If you're truly interested in addressing the prob long term, get your alignment checked at an independent shop so you're not flying blind. If you have the energy/time to always fight thru all the warranty coverage bs with the manufacturer(s) because you haven’t addressed the root cause, have a blast.
It's a sht sandwich, but it is what it is. YMMV, literally.
P.S. My r camber set to -1.1 on low via N2itive (stock was -1.8/-1.6)
When you posted your #'s at stock, I was curious what mine are. I pulled up my alignment (not by tesla) from about 15k miles ago. My car is stock suspension always in low with 20" square setup. Ps4's with 28k on them and they wear perfectly even. (I just measured them yesterday)It's factory lazy is what it is.
For those who really appreciate the best street tires on the market today for your 2021+ MS (OEM T2s), you install adjustable camber arms (or ghetto shims) else likely suffer through unusually rapid tire wear. It's totally normal to enjoy more than 20K+ miles on RWD PS4Ss whether OEM spec or off the shelf.
The root cause is Tesla's inane in-spec, non-adjustable rear camber range which is up to -2.75 degrees at MEDIUM height. When you default to low, negative camber gets even worse for wear!
If you're truly interested in addressing the prob long term, get your alignment checked at an independent shop so you're not flying blind. If you have the energy/time to always fight thru all the warranty coverage bs with the manufacturer(s) because you haven’t addressed the root cause, have a blast.
It's a sht sandwich, but it is what it is. YMMV, literally.
P.S. My r camber set to -1.1 on low via N2itive (stock was -1.8/-1.6)
we posted simultaneously. 20" rims have no issues so far. At 28k and even wear on all 4I'm wondering if this is also less of an issue on 20" rims. I'm deciding what rims to get on my new car. I can get 21s for $1k locally without tires. Adds up to $4000 with tires and tpms sensors.
Track pack 20" wheels and tires are $6000.... They look good, though not the most streetable tires....
I think this is why you're seeing some PS4S failures at 7K miles v. those at a more normal ~20K miles. This is, again, more reason why it's good to get your alignment checked by a competent professional to know where you stand especially for those who want to run the OEM 21s.When you posted your #'s at stock, I was curious what mine are. I pulled up my alignment (not by tesla) from about 15k miles ago. My car is stock suspension always in low with 20" square setup. Ps4's with 28k on them and they wear perfectly even. (I just measured them yesterday)
They have 5/32 left.
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Yeah, I would do 305 in the rear and 285 up front, so it might have some of the same issues of the 21" rears at 295 wide.I think this is why you're seeing some PS4S failures at 7K miles v. those at a more normal ~20K miles. This is, again, more reason why it's good to get your alignment checked by a competent professional to know where you stand especially for those who want to run the OEM 21s.
I don't like square setups because anything narrower than 295s in the rear look like bike tires (see: pre-2021 Model Ss).
It certainly masks it better because usually people run a much less performant, narrower with naturally a bigger sidewall tire than OEM T2s.I'm wondering if this is also less of an issue on 20" rims. I'm deciding what rims to get on my new car. I can get 21s for $1k locally without tires. Adds up to $4000 with tires and tpms sensors.
Track pack 20" wheels and tires are $6000.... They look good, though not the most streetable tires....
I think on 20s you'll be in much better tire life shape than the super square OEM T2 tires w/ 10.5s. For me, I love the OEM T2s so worked within these parameters.Yeah, I would do 305 in the rear and 285 up front, so it might have some of the same issues of the 21" rears at 295 wide.
Almost all forged wheels are also made in China, but companies kinda hide that because they think it's bad for some reason if you find out.The Arachnids are low quality, 36lbs, made in China cast wheels. Hard pass.
That’s why I’m not a lazy peon and buy based on sweet ig stance pics.Almost all forged wheels are also made in China, but companies kinda hide that because they think it's bad for some reason if you find out.
I did the 275, cause less is more when it comes to performance. Im looking for a car that hooks in the 1/4mi, and mine does just that . Runs consistent 9.2's 5.90's 1/8 and 1.40's 60ft. While maintaining some efficiency on daily driving. Plus the ability to rotate if needed (but it's not I come to find out)I think this is why you're seeing some PS4S failures at 7K miles v. those at a more normal ~20K miles. This is, again, more reason why it's good to get your alignment checked by a competent professional to know where you stand especially for those who want to run the OEM 21s.
I don't like square setups because anything narrower than 295s in the rear look like bike tires (see: pre-2021 Model Ss).