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Which one and why?
I understand where you’re coming from on the lack of higher speed power on the new M3P but early reviews are quite positive on that front. I’m not so sure anymorePlaid has rip your face off acceleration, better suspension, better interior, more cargo space. Downsides are that it's heavier and more difficult to maneuver.
M3P is smaller, lighter, more 'tossable'. Personally I prefer the Plaid since the M3P is 4k lbs anyway, and I figure I might as well go with the better cruiser at that point. And I was disappointed in the power of the new M3P - it will trail off at higher speeds. A 700hp M3P would be compelling if Tesla were to make one.
I’d argue chicken or beef without context is a reasonable question!This is like asking:
"Strawberries or Pineapples -- Which one and why"
or
"Beef or Chicken -- Which one and why"
Without some qualifications on what you are after / prefer, the question itself is pretty meaningless.
I had read about the brakes on the Plaid before I got one. Ice cold brakes can get ABS working at 100+ stops, the limit of stopping is traction not brakes. They are good for 2 to 3 stops in a row at high speeds, after that they might fade. Even doing that on the street is high risk and you really should be on the track anyway, so if on the track having brakes that won't fade once heated would mean you then need the better brakes. For the street, the stock brakes are actually very good if you need to stop quickly in an emergency once, beats the M5 in tests.I understand where you’re coming from on the lack of higher speed power on the new M3P but early reviews are quite positive on that front. I’m not so sure anymore
I’d argue chicken or beef without context is a reasonable question!
That said, I have e a 2018 M3P as my only vehicle. I’ve never tracked a car but enjoy spirited driving and while the track sounds fun, realistically it’s probably a one time thing for me.
I can afford either vehicle without but, like most, $30K difference isn’t nothing. I do like the roominess of the S and more premium feel but worry the brakes are too weak (without track pack) for the Plaid even for non track, spirited driving (then again, I’m not driving at insane speeds so am I wrong?)
There is no such 'Highland' model
I feel the MS has far better FSD than the MY/3 from owning and using it on all. I guess it's driver preference.I love the top end pull of the Plaid. The interior, hatchback, and cargo are nice. The range is nice.
As a daily driver, it's a heavy car and not a great suspension despite the "adaptive air suspension". Sound system is nice.
I also feel the FSD on Plaid isn't quite as good as FSD on M3. The reason is probably more training data comes from the smaller car.
I'm tempted to get a M3P as a "temporary" car, perhaps lease it x 2 years, and wait for HW5 before going "all in" and buying a Plaid (or whatever is next) with track brake package. Original Model S Plaid brakes are not ideal, but tolerable for "regular" driving.
I dumped my 2023 M3P for a Plaid. The 2024 is simply warmed over a touch and for all intents and purposes is the same car. I have 0 intentions of ever going back.Anyone who drives a Tesla Model S Plaid planning on getting a 2024 M3P Highland? The specs seem a bit underwhelming.
The Plaid is a heavy car but a brute at any speed.
Curious when M3P test drives will be available, and if anyone has driven both?
I dumped my 2023 M3P for a Plaid. The 2024 is simply warmed over a touch and for all intents and purposes is the same car. I have 0 intentions of ever going back.
It's not getting Air Suspension, which the MS has.Not at all. The 2024 is getting active suspension like the MS as well as a bunch of other improvements, not to mention that it will be more powerful. So not it's not the "same car".
I dumped my 2023 M3P for a Plaid. The 2024 is simply warmed over a touch and for all intents and purposes is the same car. I have 0 intentions of ever going back.