Poll - Are you waiting for the infrastructure bill before ordering?

[Phyzi Driver]

Seems like there's been almost no movement on this. Saw something earlier about how now it seems unlikely to pass and they can't get support.

I had it as a 50/50 before but now 20/80

I was considering holding off my SR+ delivery but decided to just accept delivery. Not holding out for this unicorn b/c who knows how long this will take,

 

[Alfred_Lanning]

Yeah, I think i've given up.... will take delivery of my M3P as soon as it's ready now.

 

[Fashionably L8]

I considered wanting, but we'd sold our GTI and Boxster, so we went ahead.
Took delivery last Friday, wall charger installed today, PPF going on tomorrow!

If a rebate comes along, it'll be a nice bonus (I will claim the tax break for the charger and install of course)

 

[rlich87]

I wasn't aware of any incentives or bills being passed but it wouldn't really influence my purchase. I just put in an order the other day and I'm looking forward to taking delivery of my car as quickly as I can.

 

[oreobbq]

Pushing for electrification but there are no new incentives yet.

Biden seeking pledge for 40% of U.S. sales to be EVs by 2030

 

[sethinGR]

I am hopeful that this at least gets resolved in the next 2-4 weeks, credit or no credit, though with today's announcement seems like "no credit" is the likely option.

been on hold since May 5, still planning on getting delivery by end of Q3 no matter what happens.

 

[1LE McQueen]

I wouldn't wait on politics. Take advantage of the hot used car market; sell yours and buy your next DD asap!

 

[panpan1]

I am also waiting for the fed tax incentives but it doesn't look like they'll be coming anytime soon. They didn't make it into the Infrastructure Bill and it sounds as though there may not be enough votes for the Reconciliation Bill. At this stage, I'm going to wait for the 2022 model. Is it correct that you can delay acceptance of your car for 6 months? I believe I read that in one of these threads. It's August, is it too early to begin speculation on when the 2022s will be out and what changes there might be?

 

[tezlam3]

I am also waiting for the fed tax incentives but it doesn't look like they'll be coming anytime soon. They didn't make it into the Infrastructure Bill and it sounds as though there may not be enough votes for the Reconciliation Bill. At this stage, I'm going to wait for the 2022 model. Is it correct that you can delay acceptance of your car for 6 months? I believe I read that in one of these threads. It's August, is it too early to begin speculation on when the 2022s will be out and what changes there might be?

this is ways away... NY just decreased the tax incentive rebate from $2k to $500 on june 30...

 

[rcmx]

Wondering if anybody is considering putting their order on hold, in anticipation of this bipartisan bill riding along side of the budget reconciliation. As i understand, the proposal is to make the incentive a rebate instead of a tax credit, which i believe would be applied at point of sale. That said, if your point of sale occurred before this thing passes, you may potentially miss out on significant savings.

A tax credit could potentially be retroactive ( have heard May 31st or such as the date being retroactive to)

However a rebate would have to be applied at some date and only going forward, correct? Maybe Jan 1, 2022?

Either way, it gives pause to one considering taking delivery, while they may miss this opportunity to save some money.

Thoughts?

 

[glide]

I wish people would stop posting this. There will be no change to the EV tax credit on a federal level any time soon.

If you disagree, you clearly do not understand how US Government works.

 

[sethinGR]

I stuck to my plan and waited until August, and now I restarted my order and will get delivery around Labor Day. Shrug, I don't mind the fact I waited 3 months for nothing, it allowed me to feel more comfortable with my decision. Will the massive budget bill have the credit in there? Maybe. But I wasn't willing to wait until probably November to find that out.

 

[rcmx]

I wish people would stop posting this. There will be no change to the EV tax credit on a federal level any time soon.

If you disagree, you clearly do not understand how US Government works.

Yes, the rest of us are clearly not the legislative genius that you purport to be.......but then I'll just share this...

Biden to push electric vehicles, clean energy, schools in reconciliation bill

U.S. President Joe Biden will push for electric vehicle rebates, clean energy tax credits, and school funding in the reconciliation bill, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

 

[Jeremy3292]

I stuck to my plan and waited until August, and now I restarted my order and will get delivery around Labor Day. Shrug, I don't mind the fact I waited 3 months for nothing, it allowed me to feel more comfortable with my decision. Will the massive budget bill have the credit in there? Maybe. But I wasn't willing to wait until probably November to find that out.

Biden is certainly pushing for EV tax credits or POS credits. I agree we won't know anything until November or so as the budget resolution has to be passed first in the coming weeks and then Senate and House recess until September sometime. Once they reconvene they will go through the whole process of budget reconciliation and potentially passing a bill. It all depends on what the moderate House and Senate Democrats get behind as many of them have said a $3.5T total price tag is too high. So the question becomes what gets cut? $100B+ in EV credits? We will see; they may not be able to pass any bill at all.

 

[glide]

Yes, the rest of us are clearly not the legislative genius that you purport to be.......but then I'll just share this...

Biden to push electric vehicles, clean energy, schools in reconciliation bill

U.S. President Joe Biden will push for electric vehicle rebates, clean energy tax credits, and school funding in the reconciliation bill, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

Clearly not. I will also be sarcastic and post this here for your reference. Seriously though, you may want to watch it since you clearly did not make it past the headline of the article you linked.

 

[sethinGR]

Biden is certainly pushing for EV tax credits or POS credits. I agree we won't know anything until November or so as the budget resolution has to be passed first in the coming weeks and then Senate and House recess until September sometime. Once they reconvene they will go through the whole process of budget reconciliation and potentially passing a bill. It all depends on what the moderate House and Senate Democrats get behind as many of them have said a $3.5T total price tag is too high. So the question becomes what gets cut? $100B+ in EV credits? We will see; they may not be able to pass any bill at all.

Yeah, the credits were in the infrastructure draft, then quickly got dropped. Most believe that the 3.5T will get whittled down a bunch, and I assume EV credits will be an early victim.

 

[ry-ballz]

No, because Tesla will simply raise vehicle prices to offset the rebate

 

[rcmx]

Clearly not. I will also be sarcastic and post this here for your reference. Seriously though, you may want to watch it since you clearly did not make it past the headline of the article you linked.

yep...but budget reconciliation doesn't apply to your astute learnedness from Saturday morning cartoons. Budget Reconciliation: The Basics

 

[glide]

yep...but budget reconciliation doesn't apply to your astute learnedness from Saturday morning cartoons. Budget Reconciliation: The Basics

Wrong again. But nice try. Bottom line: it isn’t happening.

The revisions to the present federal income tax rebate for purchasers of qualified plug-in hybridand electric vehicles are contained in Senate Bill 1298, the Clean Energy for America Act.

 

[Sam1]

Wrong again. But nice try. Bottom line: it isn’t happening.

The revisions to the present federal income tax rebate for purchasers of qualified plug-in hybridand electric vehicles are contained in Senate Bill 1298, the Clean Energy for America Act.

I'm still up in the air on it... They may potentially do it in the other bill. However, historically, when the government mandates something, they stop giving benefits for it because you have no choice but to abide. So I'm also thinking it may never happen as well.