The only problem is that Tesla never advertised or promised the specific functionality, so technically they CAN do that.
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Radar getting turned off on Model 3/Y with 2022.20.9
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Wouldn’t it make sense to keep using the radar for the sole purpose of safety (e.g., AEB) features? I understand if Tesla doesn’t want to use it in the AP algorithm but that alone should not be an excuse to disable the radar completely.
iamnid
Active Member
It makes sense to get rid of it so that you can have one software version that is unified and doesn't have to take into account whether the car has or does not have the radar. Simple: one version of software that assume there's no radar and doesn't use the radar.
I'm not saying it's the best choice, but I can see why they'd do it.
No. Tesla has said that Tesla Vision is safer, and radar only added noise. For example it detects and slows for a Semi that is stopped partially in the lane earlier than radar does. (You know like all the firetrucks that a Tesla has slammed into the back of.) It also has fewer problems with detecting stationary objects that can trigger a false AEB event. (Though it seems that Tesla Vision has, or had, its own problems with false slowdowns/AEB events.)
It should be a simple “if” statement in the code. And if it’s only being used for AEB (not AP/FSD) then that part of the code should never need to be updated/maintained.
Rice&Curry
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Well I think even AEB is classified as safety critical systems and are under the per view of ISO 26262. A lot of longterm issues have to be thought thru before one decides to maintain multiple branches of code. You cannot have a code branch which is not actively maintained as it form a part of safety critical system.
I have vision only 3 and when I engage autopilot at night it turns on the auto high beams even though I have the auto high beams feature turned off in the settings.
This does not happen on my radar equipped Y.I suppose when they removed lumbar, USB port data functionality and a steering sensor you were ok with that too ?
I have a 2021 Model Y with radar and no phantom braking issues. Leave the radar working!
Tesla transitioning its first radar vehicles to 'Tesla Vision'
Tesla appears to be transitioning its first radar-equipped vehicles to Tesla Visionwww.notateslaapp.com
Not sure how I feel about this. Don't like my car getting nerfed with lower AP speeds and greater following distance.
I have a 2021 Model Y with radar and no phantom braking issues. Leave the radar working!
Many automakers with front collision avoidance systems on their vehicles do not have OTA updates like Tesla. So what’s the difference between Tesla not updating the radar code vs. any other automaker that doesn’t update their code ever?
If this is true then why does every other vehicle on the market with front collision avoidance safety features have a radar?
The cameras Tesla uses are not high enough quality for a vision only system. That’s why they have a big contract to Samsung for new cameras. I doubt they will retrofit older units unless you paid for FSD but it’s not a sure thing.
How is it possible for you to make such a definitive statement?
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
The original post / link from the website notateslaapp, showed that the notification was from a model S, so I am gonna say "not right, it likely impacts s and x too if this is confirmed".
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
Read the many articles out there about the contract with Samsung. It appears that the current sensor suite is not good enough. Tesla is probably aware of some new technology that Samsung has that brings their camera to the next level.
That doesn't mean current cameras aren't good enough. It just means that it can be even better with better cameras. (And likely a better FSD chip to handle the extra data from said cameras.)
In fact I think Elon said something along the lines that the HW3 system will be ~2x better than a human while the HW4 system will be ~10x better than a human.
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